Sooner or later, you're gonna want it. And the second — the second — that happens, you know I'll be there. I'll slip in, have myself a real good day.

Spike ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Jessica - Mar 21, 2003 8:33:24 am PST #131 of 10289
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Not 9?

[nevermind, I'm an idiot and not thinking mathily enough. different "perfect." carry on.]


brenda m - Mar 21, 2003 8:57:26 am PST #132 of 10289
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

OK, how 'bout this. Does 12 mos. have any supporters out there, as either the kill-time or as a ballot option?


DavidS - Mar 21, 2003 9:00:04 am PST #133 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Does 12 mos. have any supporters out there, as either the kill-time or as a ballot option?

I haven't seen anybody push for 12 months yet.


Cindy - Mar 21, 2003 9:32:13 am PST #134 of 10289
Nobody

This bugs me, because, well, I didn't. And I'm not placing blame on anyone, 'cuz what you did worked (and, oddly, gave me the results I wanted, too. I think.)

See? It's not about being right or voting your conscience. It's about trusting that the system will produce the proper results.

Voting up on those numbers is no different than voting for Gore, because although you wanted Ralph Nader, you didn't think he stood a snowball's chance in hell of winning. People can do what they want with their vote.

I am asking the people who keep suggesting we add 4 months as an option, to consider dropping that request.

You don't have to do what I am asking, but I am still asking. I'm asking it because there's not a huge difference between 3 months and 4 months. I would hate to see our ballot become more complex over this. Nothing guarantees an item will be revisited at all. This is just the waiting period before it can be revisited (barring extraordinary circumstance).

Can we please just agree putting 3 and 6 up for a vote? Please? Pretty please? Pretty please with a cherry on top? Not mine, heaven knows that bird's flown the coop, but I'm sure there's one lying around here somewhere.


brenda m - Mar 21, 2003 9:33:43 am PST #135 of 10289
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Nope, me either. So we can maybe take that one off the table and proceed with narrowing down the options. So far I've seen 3, 4, 6, and 9 suggested. Three and six were originally up there, and seem to have the most support.

So how 'bout this: does anyone object to three and six as the ballot options? Speak up, and maybe we can get the question hammered out.


Jon B. - Mar 21, 2003 9:35:26 am PST #136 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Preferential Ballot!!!!

t /ducks


Betsy HP - Mar 21, 2003 9:43:44 am PST #137 of 10289
If I only had a brain...

t hits Jon over the head with a pumpkin


Sophia Brooks - Mar 21, 2003 9:47:06 am PST #138 of 10289
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

My question is-- is anyone so married to the idea of 4 or 9 that they can deal with talking about how to vote. Because I am not.

Also, do we want to add the think about limitng seconds to this ballot. I am thinking not at this point.


Wolfram - Mar 21, 2003 9:47:57 am PST #139 of 10289
Visilurking

Likewise, I have a similar reaction to someone saying that the board is squelching their free speech. This is a private board with an international membership. We are not constitutionally bound to uphold the 4th Amendment.

pssst, 1st Amendment

For self-serving reasons I want to say 3 months, if old issues end up with the same moratorium. But I'm more inclined to 6 months because there's no reason to see the same issues debated 4 times a year. That being said, there needs to be a system in place to make exceptions to the 6 month rule, and I think we need to discuss that at the same time. I suggest a significant change in circumstance exception, and what constitutes a "change in circumstance" to warrant breaking the moratorium gets a shorter discussion and vote period (say 1 day for each) because if the change is significant it should be easy to gauge the feeling of the board in 2 days.

Edited to fix the spelling of gauge. It was driving me batty.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 21, 2003 9:51:13 am PST #140 of 10289
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

We can't decide what constitutes a 'change in circumstance' unless we want to get bogged down in very minute details. we cannot anticipate everything.

I think a change in circumstance has to be decided by "old style" consensus.