Lorne: My little prince. Oh…what did they do to you? Angel: Nina…tried to…eat me. Lorne: Oh, you're--medic! You're gonna make it Angel. Just don't stop fighting. Doctor! Is there a Gepetto in the house?

'Smile Time'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Jon B. - May 09, 2003 9:47:12 pm PDT #1293 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

The ballot is ready when you are, DX.


DXMachina - May 09, 2003 9:50:03 pm PDT #1294 of 10289
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Okay, I plan to be the midnight proposal vote poster what posts at midnight.


Michele T. - May 09, 2003 9:55:25 pm PDT #1295 of 10289
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

I like the cut of your jib, baby!


DXMachina - May 09, 2003 10:02:06 pm PDT #1296 of 10289
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Hear Ye! Hear Ye! Voting is now open on the following proposal. Voting will close 5/13/03 12:00 am EDT.

PROPOSAL: That the community, if it is practical to code, allow individual threads to be designated, "Accessible only to members of the community," and restrict access to those threads only to registered users. Any such threads to be so designated shall be determined by separate proposal and vote. If the proposal passes, the coding of this feature shall be added to the features request list.

Yes/No

Voting is here .


Sean K - May 12, 2003 8:55:23 am PDT #1297 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

A number of the circumstances surrounding my objections to this proposal have changed.

Therefore, my objections have changed, and may in fact no longer exist.

The original rant that was posted here has been saved, and parts of it may resurface, but I felt it should be taken down for now.


Wolfram - May 12, 2003 9:20:05 am PDT #1298 of 10289
Visilurking

I agree with Sean. And I'm as big a fan of Tim's as the next guy, and really, really appreciate the fact that he comes here and posts as a Buffista as well. Only this:

I know many people, including ita, have pointed out that if we quickly decide that there was no need for the thread that it's esay wnough to make it go away, and the drain on resources would be minor.

I don't think deleting a thread will prove to be at all easy. So caution beforehand is probably a better course.


§ ita § - May 13, 2003 7:32:19 am PDT #1299 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

From msbelle in Press:

Voting has stopped.

85 people voted on the following proposal:

Proposal: That the community, if it is practical to code, allow individual threads to be designated, "Accessible only to members of the community," and restrict access to those threads only to registered users. Any such threads to be so designated shall be determined by separate proposal and vote.

Results:

Yes 15
No 63
No preference 7


Betsy HP - May 16, 2003 12:16:30 pm PDT #1300 of 10289
If I only had a brain...

Here's the proposal on the floor.

[link]

All decisions made between December 20, 2002 and March 20, 2003 [was within the last three months] are subject to a waiting period before being reopened. This waiting period shall be the standard Buffista post-vote waiting period, and shall begin from March 20, 2003 [was the passage of this proposal].


Betsy HP - May 16, 2003 12:18:09 pm PDT #1301 of 10289
If I only had a brain...

Arguments pro:

  • Reopening discussions we've already had drains community goodwill

Arguments con:

  • The proposition itself requires reopening discussions, because we'll have to generate a list of what decisions were made and what constitutes a decision.
  • Since this proposal, if passed, would only extend the moratorium to June 20th, 2003, that's a lot of effort for very little return.


Cindy - May 16, 2003 12:19:04 pm PDT #1302 of 10289
Nobody

Betsy HP "Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier" Mar 20, 2003 10:33:58 pm EST

Here is a formal proposal for the next vote (assuming it gets four seconds).

All decisions made within the last three months are subject to a waiting period before being reopened. This waiting period shall be the standard Buffista post-vote waiting period, and shall begin from the passage of this proposal.

[Original proposal made by BHP on March 20, 2003]

This proposal got more than 4 seconds, and grew out of a sticky discussion that began about 1000 posts before the proposal itself.

The phrase the last three months was (iirc) meant to signify all decisions made before we began voting, and/or all those that weren't covered by the vote we took to enact a 6 month moratorium (with a gut check at 3 mos.) that prohibits us from easily tossing out decisions we've already agonized to make.