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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Hil R. - Mar 20, 2003 11:43:00 pm PST #105 of 10289
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

What are the consequences?

I'd say that that would probably be an instance where DNFtEC would work.

I still haven't decided whether I like 3 months or 6 months better. I'm leaning more towards 6 months to cut down on clutter, but more towards 3 months to allow for changes when neccesary. So I'm still reading and thinking.


Kat - Mar 20, 2003 11:44:13 pm PST #106 of 10289
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

t opening pandora's big ole box

Are we really going with limited choices and a straight X number of months or 6 months on a ballot? Cause if we did, I skimmed it.


billytea - Mar 20, 2003 11:45:09 pm PST #107 of 10289
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

There won't be any averaging involved, so vote your conscience. Which, if your conscience is any good, will be 3.

Impugning my conscience's six-love will only -- well, strictly I'll still just be voting '6', but I'll be doing so in a deep, Satanic voice, and be voting for "6, MORTAL!!" or something like that.


Gandalfe - Mar 20, 2003 11:49:26 pm PST #108 of 10289
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

I don't recall you ever being told you couldn't do something because you weren't there. I believe one person, upset at the trend and tone of the conversation, made a remark that was never intended to be taken seriously.

How was anyone to know that it wasn't meant to be taken seriously? Honestly, when I read it, my gut reaction was to post something completely rude. I managed to channel it into a post of similar lack of content. You should be proud of me.

This is a private board with an international membership. We are not constitutionally bound to uphold the 4th Amendment.

No, but neither are we bound to not attempt to reach it. My view is simply that more discussion is better. Filter everything I say through that, and it'll all make sense. Maybe (Since I appear to be offending everyone this evening, let me mention that this is a comment on my writing ability, not anyone's comprehension.)

So choosing to poke people again and continue this implication that we ban people willy-nilly insults this community and offends me, one of its members.

No such implication was meant, I assure you. Honestly, the two comments were unrelated, and it wasn't until just this moment that I remembered the ugliness of a few days ago. It's been overwhelmed by the current ugliness.


Gandalfe - Mar 20, 2003 11:51:48 pm PST #109 of 10289
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

BTW, I think that any more comments on my use of the B word will be replied to via e-mail, as we're scaring the horses. So, this is my last public word on it.

Possibly.


brenda m - Mar 20, 2003 11:54:19 pm PST #110 of 10289
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Count me in with the 6ers. I've been wavering on this a bit, but looking at how painful and drawn out discussions seem to be getting, the very idea of opening something up again three months after it's shot down makes me cringe.

And really, how often do we make or need to make changes around here? Right now we've got a lot of stuff on the table, but even now it's mostly administrative stuff relating to the voting changes. If we hadn't gotten the movies thread, would it kill us to have to wait six months rather than three to try again? Even if you don't have a dedicated thread for a topic, bring it up in Natter. Bring it up in Bitches. Shoehorn it into every freaking post if you need to. It's not the end of the world, and the toll that these issues can take on the community is huge.


DavidS - Mar 20, 2003 11:57:03 pm PST #111 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Are we really going with limited choices and a straight X number of months or 6 months on a ballot? Cause if we did, I skimmed it.

We're deciding what goes on the ballot. It could be a fill in the blank like the last one. Or we could make it either 3 or 6. Or 3 or 6 or a year.

Kat, I took the same strategy with seconds, incidentally. I thought five was good, but put in 7 to push the average up.


Gandalfe - Mar 21, 2003 12:00:11 am PST #112 of 10289
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

I thought five was good, but put in 7 to push the average up.

This bugs me, because, well, I didn't. And I'm not placing blame on anyone, 'cuz what you did worked (and, oddly, gave me the results I wanted, too. I think.) But I wonder what would have happened if people had answered honestly, instead of fudging? Because both of the people who've said something about it have fudged upwards, so it doesn't REALLY give us the average of what people wanted, it more like a combination of the average of what people wanted and what the thought other people wanted.

My head just exploded.


brenda m - Mar 21, 2003 12:01:14 am PST #113 of 10289
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Gandalfe, I didn't care for your first banning comment, but in light of the post you were responding to, I understand why you felt provoked. The second one, coming after you had seen that that type of comment was upsetting to people, seemed deliberate.

You may not have meant to offend. But prefacing your post with a comment about getting banned for making it implies that actively stomping out dissent is the way this community operates. It doesn't, and suggesting it does is insulting for what it says about our ability to listen and relate to people of other viewpoints. You are also making this comment at a time when some of us are still bleeding from the shrapnel of a single banning, which was undertaken with great discussion and wringing of hands.

Noone's saying you can't say it. We are asking that you show a little sensitivity to the fact that people are upset and hurting on this issue, and to respect that.


brenda m - Mar 21, 2003 12:02:42 am PST #114 of 10289
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I put in what I thought on both questions (seconds and MVT). One came out higher and one lower than I voted.