Posting from a device while on vacation so this will be shorter than it could be....and judging from where I picked up on this thread I've been inactive for years so I don't want to take up too much bandwidth...but the FB group notification got me back here to catch up because this board has always been to me first and foremost the ultimate safe space on the internet and it's deeply unsettling that there is even an issue, given how many years it has spanned and how much life coaching he has received from many people here.
I experienced no specific appalling incident like Jessica had to go through...but....enough uncomfortable interactions that I avoided threads and eventually the board entirely. I didn't want to be mean by refusing a FB friend request or later unfriending but I unfollowed and filtered my own posts to not be seen.
I sit on bench ban. It's not a comfortable bench but it is long and I tried to bring some cushions for y'all with less padding.
non-stop updates of his "Hamilton"-centric NYC trip
I see what you did there :)
Jess, it was my shot, and I didn't throw it away. (I'll stop now. Promise.)
He's protected his Twitter account. If you're not following him, you can't see squat. Super convenient, because the last three tweets I saw were bad apologies for the bad behavior. IMO, it's continued gaslighting. He attempted to apologize, and people were pointed to that, and now it's all gone unless you follow him. I don't, so there's that.
I suspect the spin doctoring will now begin. He'll try to gather supporters and create new sycophants and get them to believe he's really Not That Bad.
We'll see.
I'm sorry that people were hurt.
I'm really sorry that I didn't see. I knew people didn't like him , I did not know why . I am very good at skipping past a lot of stuff on line -- so places where I might have seen, I wan't looking .
Matt and I were away --and i didn't see anything until yesterday. And that was most of our conversation all they way up from San Diego.
Thank you for what you said Strix-- it help me sort out things in my head. And thank you for responding with Grace when you were confronted with a hard truth.
I've got some questions for me --I know my responses to a lot of behavior is dulled - it has to be because I work with the public. At the library we are trying to respond quicker to patterns and it is hard.
I am glad that there is a vote.
I'm curious to know how many people MARCIEd him.
I did, but it wasn't because he made me uncomfortable. It's because I thought he was a tool. He'd also been incredibly rude to a friend of mine who used to post here. I was reading about the Rob Thomas stuff above, and remembered that the reason he first showed up here was because Tim (and maybe, Joss, too?) announced the cancellation of Firefly here.
but I owe an apology to DX for not taking it seriously enough when he expressed his concerns about P-C.
No you don't. I never confronted him the way Karl did. It was all me venting in back channel, and it's likely my dislike for him was coloring my arguments, so I can see people taking some of it with a grain of salt. I remember ita told me I should at least try to point out to him that he was being creepy, but I never did. I should've listened. She was almost always right.
Of course that doesn't mean I don't feel the urge to change my tagline to "I told you so!" :)
It is so lovely to see so many old friends back again. Hi, DX!
DX!
I don't know if I MARCIE'd P-C, or if I just mentally tl;dr'd him all the time.
So, here's the funny thing. I posted in my FB about this whole thing, using the publisher's announcement as a springboard, and tagged SF theater folks. Which led to a long phone call with one of them, wherein he said he had always found P-C creepy in person, but since P-C always surrounded himself with women, my friend figured it was just a personality clash. And my friend is not the only person to have personal issues with P-C & to have commented on that dichotomy.
(That led to a long (and interesting) discussion of boundaries, where they land, why they get slippery in certain contexts (theater), how to enforce them after the context of a show is over, etc. My friend's a lot more articulate in these matters than I am, so I hope something interesting and thinky will come out of it, and I hope everyone continues to have a heightened awareness.)
Point being, the gender break happens IRL and online, and I'm sorry I didn't listen harder.
