Zoe: We're getting him back. Jayne: What are we gonna do, clone him?

'War Stories'


Natter 78: I might need to watch some Buffy for inspiration

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Gudanov - Nov 13, 2024 1:48:23 pm PST #3446 of 3462
Coding and Sleeping

AG Matt Goetz?!?!?!

Yeah, that's a tough one to take.


Karl - Nov 13, 2024 1:49:35 pm PST #3447 of 3462
I adore all you motherfuckers so much -- PMM.

Erika, I haven't thought about Stuart Margolin (the fellow who played Angel on the Rockford Files) in quite a while. My mum was a huge fan. Good memories.

The family group-text has started about where my mum's family are gathering for Thanksgiving. One of my younger cousins has volunteered her place in Oakland to host. (Ok, first cousin once removed, but who's counting?) I'm having many complicated feelings about whether or not I want to go, and I don't even have the excuse of "it's a long drive/bus ride/etc" to fall back on.

Talking with my favourite cousin on the phone (!) a few weeks ago was unexpectedly emotional, as well. That's kind of how this whole thing started. Janet's been gone a dozen years now, and every time I gather with her family, there's a part of my soul that just aches.

I don't think there's a point here. I'm not even looking for advice; it's just that you folks have been with me through all of this, so I don't have to explain the context to you.

I used to say, "You know the sense of community and belonging that a lot of people get from their church or other religious group? That's what science fiction conventions are for me." But since BayCon changed management and COVID and all that crap, that's not so much true anymore.

Anyhow, I'm glad you're all here, and I hope that we can continue to give one another support and comfort for a long time to come.


NoiseDesign - Nov 13, 2024 1:59:24 pm PST #3448 of 3462
Our wings are not tired

I'm glad you are here too Karl!


Dana - Nov 13, 2024 2:57:25 pm PST #3449 of 3462
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

I made apple bread. Stuck the stick in to make sure it came out clean. Did it twice more. Cooled the bread, flipped it out of the plan, and it completely fell apart because it wasn't cooked in the middle. Whole thing went in the trash. I'm trying not to view it as a metaphor for everything right now.


msbelle - Nov 13, 2024 4:22:30 pm PST #3450 of 3462
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Mac had a blow-up of frustration with being bed-bound and unable to do what he wants (like bathe). I got a shower stool yesterday and as we have his first follow-up appointment tomorrow, it was time to attempt some sort of bathing.

I am not sure how he thought this would go. He can't put weight on his foot, we don't have bars in the tub to hold on to. He seems to have no ability to visualize what the reality of things are, so when I showed him how I best thought he could get on the stool, keep his leg out of the way and use the hand-held shower to rinse off where he could scrub, he just looked baffled and took an attitude of it being impossible. I stepped out of the way and gave him some privacy and he managed at least some form of it, but there was crutch throwing and door slamming and huffing and puffing.

FFS. I mean, I get it, it IS frustrating, but it has been 2 weeks and I can all but guarantee you I would have figured a way to get around and do stuff on my crutches in 2 weeks.

Vent over. sorry.


erikaj - Nov 13, 2024 4:55:30 pm PST #3451 of 3462
Always Anti-fascist!

Karl, I'd say if you don't think you have an Angel, you are one for somebody. Or Boyd Crowder. "We dug coal together." As for the ache, is it like blues, where it is sad, but almost feels good? Or more than you could take?(Cause one might be something to do, the other might be like "Aw, dang, my allergy to bullshit kicked in again. so sad.") Msbelle, he's testing my patience and I'm not there.(Shakes disabled fist) Cleared out a bunch of books today...trying not to feel that I'm wrapping shit up.


Beverly - Nov 14, 2024 3:35:33 am PST #3452 of 3462
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Had an appointment with my therapist today. We agreed it's acceptable and wise, health-wise, for me to step even further back from the news than I have been. That after a lifetime, since age 18, of demonstrations and marches and sit-ins and letter-writing and meetings and fundraising, at this point in my life, US politics is no longer mine to fix. If I can manage to hold onto SS and Medicare until I die, I will be happy enough. I send newer generations my hope, strength and determination, and all hopes for their future. I'm doing this because I need some peace in what remains of my time here, and I'm good with that.

Karl, I love you. The rest of you too. My family is reduced to five members, with two conditional step great-grands. Outside of family and a handful of personal friends, this place and you people are the next ring in "my people."


Laura - Nov 14, 2024 6:55:01 am PST #3453 of 3462
Our wings are not tired.

We agreed it's acceptable and wise, health-wise, for me to step even further back from the news than I have been. That after a lifetime, since age 18, of demonstrations and marches and sit-ins and letter-writing and meetings and fundraising, at this point in my life, US politics is no longer mine to fix. If I can manage to hold onto SS and Medicare until I die, I will be happy enough. I send newer generations my hope, strength and determination, and all hopes for their future. I'm doing this because I need some peace in what remains of my time here, and I'm good with that.

I think we are in the same neighborhood age, and this is where I am at.

That said, my news alert this morning says the Onion bought Infowars at auction. That is so smile worthy,


brenda m - Nov 14, 2024 7:36:25 am PST #3454 of 3462
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I'm getting my news the way God intended: through a combination of Buffistas, Tumblr (Destiel memes preferably), and my college roommates group chat.

This is where I’m at. It won’t be forever. But for right now, I just need to disengage.

My neighborhood has a number of active mutually aid groups and I feel like right now those are a better use of time and energy than news following and demonstrating so that’s probably where I will begin to ream emerge.

For now, though, we’re planning to Christmas the fuck out of Christmas and try to be in a stronger place when all this shit comes to bear


Laura - Nov 14, 2024 7:42:57 am PST #3455 of 3462
Our wings are not tired.

My son is flying down for Christmas so that will improve things. He and the GF will be here 25th to the 2nd. I still haven't decided what to do about Thanksgiving. I was going to run away somewhere because DH has basketball. Now my brother is in such bad shape, and my sister will be coming here as soon as she can travel. So all is up in the air.