It's because you didn't have a strong father figure isn't it?

Joyce ,'Chosen'


Natter 78: I might need to watch some Buffy for inspiration

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Nov 04, 2024 8:10:21 am PST #3198 of 3491
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

I fear that neither party will concede on Nov. 6th

The 2020 election didn't get officially called until the Saturday after the election. I'm not expecting anything different this year.

(Okay, I am secretly hoping for a blue wave so overwhelming that I can just go to bed at 10 pm tomorrow night, regardless of whether Trump concedes, because fuck him. Candidates aren't legally required to concede anyway; if the loser doesn't officially concede/make a concession speech/whatever, it doesn't change anything about the outcome of the election or the winning candidate's plans moving forward.)


Gudanov - Nov 04, 2024 8:11:27 am PST #3199 of 3491
Coding and Sleeping

Pretty sure you also said this in 2020, fwiw.

May just be natural pessimism.


Dana - Nov 04, 2024 8:12:56 am PST #3200 of 3491
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

It feels hard to be optimistic. I do like "nauseously optimistic."


msbelle - Nov 04, 2024 8:22:43 am PST #3201 of 3491
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I’m avoiding polls. I’m off tomorrow, but I started a deep clean this weekend, so the plan is to continue that.

I don’t want to work on most days, but today few people are in and waves hands at world - I just feel it’s more and more ridiculous to expect solid consistent work from people.


askye - Nov 04, 2024 8:25:46 am PST #3202 of 3491
Thrive to spite them

I'm off tomorrow. I wish I was off Wed. Depending on how things go.

I will say that I haven't seen a lot of Trump signs out. Which doesn't mean people aren't going to vote for him but it doesn't seem that there is the enthusiasm for him like there was.

I haven't seen a lot of Harris signs either but that is expected.

Not just road signs but I haven't seen any trucks with Trump flags attached or things like that which I had seen in the last election.


Gudanov - Nov 04, 2024 8:30:47 am PST #3203 of 3491
Coding and Sleeping

Got lots of Trump signs here and flags and banners and a Humvee painted like an American flag with a big Trump sign, but this is a deep-red county where Trump won in 2020 by 38 points. There are a few Harris signs about too, though.


JenP - Nov 04, 2024 8:59:23 am PST #3204 of 3491

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DavidS - Nov 04, 2024 9:20:54 am PST #3205 of 3491
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I'm feeling optimistic and anxious.

The NYT poll shows that late deciding voters are breaking strong for Harris, and that she leads Trump in polling as being better for the middle class and less divisive and more likely to protect the Democracy show that she's gotten her messaging across.

Harris is winning among Independents, and Uncommitted voters.

The Selzer poll shows that Harris is pulling strong numbers from older white women, suburban and rural. Which bodes well for her picking up votes in red counties. Suburban white women were the reason Trump won in 2016.

Trump's campaign never tried to grow his base and he's all in on uneducated white males who are low propensity voters.

I've got a whole list of things that tilt towards Kamala. That said, I have been betrayed and disappointed by the American people before, and my bitterness with election shenanigans goes back to 2000.

However, even just taking the cynical/practical view of things, it seems clear that women are highly motivated by the Dobbs decision especially as they see women dying in parking lots. Women have a greater stake in this outcome than some 22 year old incel on the couch playing Fortnight.


P.M. Marc - Nov 04, 2024 9:49:36 am PST #3206 of 3491
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I am so afraid to feel any optimism, and after 2016 I've avoided looking too hard at any predictions/polls/clairvoyant octopods in case I accidentally see some good news. This is an incredibly normal and healthy way to feel for 8 years hashtag everything is fine.

AHAHAHA. You are me. hashtag weeps.


meara - Nov 04, 2024 9:57:40 am PST #3207 of 3491

I am with all y’all on head in sand scared to hope since 2016.

That said, I have been betrayed and disappointed by the American people before, and my bitterness with election shenanigans goes back to 2000.

Yeah sadly when I’ve seen those “you don’t have to tell your husband you voted for her” things all I’ve thought it “yeah, and your husband can lie and say he voted for Kamala while secretly going for Trump, so…”