See, in my fantasy, when I'm kissing you... you're kissing me. It's okay. I can wait.

Oz ,'First Date'


Natter 78: I might need to watch some Buffy for inspiration

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 26, 2024 9:45:35 am PDT #2278 of 4160
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Happy Birthday, lisah! May the firing and layoffs remain strictly the province of nightmares.


-t - Aug 26, 2024 9:59:44 am PDT #2279 of 4160
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I have heard a theory (I got it from Francis Crick but I'm not sure if he's the originator) that the problem with dreams is that we remember them. Our poor brains are trying to clear out all those anxieties and fears from the cache while we aren't paying attention and we go and recapture the memories and think about them while we are awake. It's an appealing idea.


erikaj - Aug 26, 2024 11:10:02 am PDT #2280 of 4160
Always Anti-fascist!

Thinking of that Simpsons thing, with the little song. "Lisa, it's your birthday...happy birthday, Lisa." (Strange, but sweet, like a lot of my best early-simpson's memories. Even though I still laugh sometimes, that show hasn't been like that in a long time.)


askye - Aug 26, 2024 11:42:51 am PDT #2281 of 4160
Thrive to spite them

Sheryl from what I remember of my brief stint working at a pet store hamsters aren't the best starter pets even though a lot of guides say they are.

They are fragile...not as fragile as a chinchilla but still tiny bones so they need gentle handling. They are nocturnal so they will be up moving around at night and sleeping lots during the day. They also need daily handling and interaction ...some more than others. Dwarf hamsters really need that otherwise they get bitey.


JenP - Aug 26, 2024 12:31:58 pm PDT #2282 of 4160

Yeah, that just sounds like a whole other level of care and feeding (literally) that maybe is a lot to take on right now. I mean, no kids or hamsters over here, but it just strikes me as potentially fraught.


DavidS - Aug 26, 2024 1:34:31 pm PDT #2283 of 4160
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Happy birthday, lisah!

erika has earwormed me with the Simpsons birthday song.

Folks, I'm full on boggled at how quickly AI is moving and I'm not getting the impression that people understand how profoundly it's going to change everything.

I've got one (admittedly quirky/weird) friend who's already deeply into a relationship with her chatbot, which she has trained up to her tastes. Extra weirdly it can call her on the phone and they can talk.

I'm seeing credible animations done from prompts, and it's harder to spot the obvious AI glitches (It's figuring out fingers!).

Forget about the movie Her, it's moving directly to Ryan Gosling's holo AI girlfriend in the Bladerunner sequel.

People will be able to generate their own alternative slashtastic version of a season of Supernatural by basically wishing it into existence. It will take no particular expertise to populate bespoke porn with your neighbors and coworkers. That Dark Mirror episode USS Callister is about to happen everywhere.

And there are no guardrails on any of it.

The implications are huge, but more stunning is that it's already here. It's not over the horizon.


lisah - Aug 26, 2024 6:15:59 pm PDT #2284 of 4160
Punishingly Intricate

Thanks for the birthday wishes, everyone!


askye - Aug 26, 2024 10:05:44 pm PDT #2285 of 4160
Thrive to spite them

There are no safe guards and more and more industries want to use AI for things. Like AI being used in health insurance or worse AI being used to give medical advice by tele health...which right now is only an idea. And AI glitches (hallucinates) and comes up with weird answers that can cause problems.

Like suggesting super glue on pizza because it regurgitated some joking reddit comment.

And there was another AI that was Rick Rolling people. Not intentionally...it just scraped enough data from the Internet that had enough RickRolling that the algorithm spit it out.


Calli - Aug 27, 2024 4:59:36 am PDT #2286 of 4160
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I seem to recall there was an eating disorder organization that replaced human phone councilors with AI. AI, trained on the internet as it was, started giving anorexic teens diet tips, to help them lose more weight.

AI is running into a recursive garbage in-garbage out problem. It’s largely trained on web scraping, but now a lot of Google search results are AI generated. So it’s creating its own reality, and the hallucinations, rather than getting fixed as AI develops, are getting worse.

I follow the stock ticker NANC, which is pinned to the reported investments of Democratic congresspeople. As of this morning, their top investment is NVIDA Corp., a chip manufacturer whose price has soared due to its product being widely used with AI. So don’t expect any legal guardrails for AI anytime soon.

I created an AI bot last year. Y’all could go to Poe, an AI aggregator, and create your own. There’s nothing like creating an AI bot to remove most respect for them.


Toddson - Aug 27, 2024 8:39:11 am PDT #2287 of 4160
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Assembly not required - IKEA is going to start a marketplace for second-hand furniture of theirs - so you can buy assembled pieces and don't need the little wrenches.