Can I mop your brow? I am at the ready with the fearsome brow-mop.

Wash ,'Objects In Space'


Natter 78: I might need to watch some Buffy for inspiration

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


JenP - Jul 26, 2024 8:17:15 pm PDT #1794 of 2418

Yeah, that's a large part of why I started -- to get my ratios right-ish among carbs, fats, and protein. My doc was like, "Do you eat enough protein?" And I said, "Well, I'm pretty sure, because if there's no protein in my meal, then I don't really think of it as a meal, so..." Turns out I was right.

The apps have gotten so fast and useful now, I don't get stuck/sucked in getting every little detail right, so it helps me not be obsessive.


Laura - Jul 27, 2024 6:15:23 am PDT #1795 of 2418
Our wings are not tired.

Anyway -- you have a tracking buddy now!

Yeah, it seems to make a big difference with me too. Doing keto it is easy to have too much protein and not enough fat. Getting to 70% fat is a challenge, but macadamia nuts FTW. (90% of their calories from fat) I get so much protein from the collagen peptides I take for my deteriorating bones, and I drink a max protein ensure most days. I didn't eat meat for 35 years so I still am not in the habit of eating a lot of it. Just the peptides and ensure have me at 50 grams of protein. But now that I rejoined the carnivores I will down a cheeseburger from time to time.

I am pretty loose about the tracking, while DH is a freak even asking me if it was 6 or 8 cherry tomatoes in his salad. Weighs everything. Dude!

chocolate oat ice cream bars at TJs

The keto ice cream bars are so super tasty! I wonder if I could make keto ice cream. Probably, I shall research.

I've been back on keto about a month. I miss my morning oatmeal with fruit and nuts, but a spinach feta omelet and bacon would comfort that loss.


Pix - Jul 27, 2024 8:58:17 am PDT #1796 of 2418
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Tracking is the only way I have ever successfully lost weight. Which apps do y'all use?


meara - Jul 27, 2024 9:13:55 am PDT #1797 of 2418

I did not take any decongestant last night and slept fine, breathing and feeling fine, but the Covid test is still strongly positive. Maybe not QUITE as strong but…ugh. I want to get back to normal life. Had to Amazon more Covid tests to myself. Which of course meant I had to throw in a few other goodies as well. Like you do.

Keto would not work for me. But I’m crossing my fingers I can stay anywhere near my current weight. But protein is hard! I’ve been not only using the high protein fairlife milk in my iced coffee but also adding in half a scoop of protein powder. Hoping that helps.


JenP - Jul 27, 2024 9:20:47 am PDT #1798 of 2418

Which apps do y'all use?

I use good ol' Fitness Pal.

I've been making Greek yogurt smoothies w/ oat milk, fruit, and protein powder, and then I feel virtuous about my "milkshake," ha!

And I don't know what it is, but I have been absolutely craving hamburgers for the past few weeks. Well, I do know part of what it is is the yummy fat, which I'm supposed to keep low... so there's that. But I treat myself. Life is for living, and I'm going to eat me a burger from time to time.


askye - Jul 27, 2024 9:34:16 am PDT #1799 of 2418
Thrive to spite them

Wal Mart is leaning heavily into keto and high protein stuff. With the remodel going we are getting a lot of things, I'm not sure how well they will do at our store (so I'm looking forward to when we stop selling some things and I can grab some clearance deals), I'm thinking about starting to have some of the protein oatmeal options for a snack.

Also the one product type that really amuses me is Porq panko ...it's not panko, it's pork rinds that are ground up. It amuses me because , well you could just grind your own. Also I'm amused that ground up pork rinds for a coating on food is considered better than bread crumbs.


Steph L. - Jul 27, 2024 10:16:42 am PDT #1800 of 2418
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Tracking is the only way I have ever successfully lost weight. Which apps do y'all use?

I use Cronometer and really like it.


Steph L. - Jul 27, 2024 10:19:04 am PDT #1801 of 2418
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

We’re leaving for vacation today and are only an hour behind our optimistic departure time. This is our first time taking a long trip in the hybrid, so I’m curious to see how it does, fuel-wise.


Calli - Jul 27, 2024 10:35:43 am PDT #1802 of 2418
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I just stopped keto last week. I read that more than 6 months straight can have unfortunate side effects, so I’m transitioning to a slightly less restrictive low carb. It’ll still keep me from eating my own weight in pasta, so I’m calling it good.

David Cameron

David Hameron, rather.


Laura - Jul 27, 2024 11:12:27 am PDT #1803 of 2418
Our wings are not tired.

Which apps do y'all use?

I use Carb Manager, which is fine for any diet, you just plug in the goal percentages for carbs/fat/protein, or anything else like fiber. They have most restaurant menu items, and it is easy to add your recipes.

The last time I did Keto for a full year and lost 60 pounds. (Docs thought that was a perfect rate of loss, sigh) I've only been on it again a month, but I'd like to just stay on it forever. It is easy enough now with so many keto products. My doctors feel it is good for me with the family history of diabetes (all 3 siblings are diabetic) and the seizure history. They say I can stay on it forever. Not only did my sugar numbers go down but my cholesterol dropped too. That could be my focus on keeping my fiber numbers high.