...burning baby fish swimming all round your head.

Drusilla ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 78: I might need to watch some Buffy for inspiration

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


brenda m - Jul 21, 2024 11:54:31 am PDT #1660 of 3451
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I’m really gutted at this. It feels like a centrist revolt that is putting all of our lives in danger.

I think there was less than no chance that Biden did anything but throw himself 100% behind Harris. But I will be shocked if the same voices calling for Biden to step down did anything of the sort now.

I’m a huge fan, and I think she’ll make an incredible president. But it’s going to be an ugly road. And if the so-called liberal donor class and white liberal punditry don’t stop showing their asses, we’re all in big trouble


Calli - Jul 21, 2024 12:01:03 pm PDT #1661 of 3451
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I saw the news about Biden from that Destiel meme on tumblr. (I don’t think I’ll ever be able to watch Mischa Collins in anything ever again without feeling twitchy about impending news. ) I’ll be happy to vote for Harris. To be fair, I’d vote for one of my cats’ hairballs before I’d vote for Trump, with the sure and certain understanding that the hairball would do a better job. But what little I’ve seen of Harris suggests she’s smart and as ethical as we can expect from a politician. She also won’t have the weight of ageism or the Gaza issues weighing her campaign down.


msbelle - Jul 21, 2024 12:18:25 pm PDT #1662 of 3451
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Cat hairball 2024!!!


meara - Jul 21, 2024 12:26:29 pm PDT #1663 of 3451

I too would like to live in precedented times, for a bit.


Calli - Jul 21, 2024 12:28:09 pm PDT #1664 of 3451
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I wonder who Harris’s running mate will be. Probably some centrist white guy to try and calm down the misogynistic bigots.


Dana - Jul 21, 2024 12:29:41 pm PDT #1665 of 3451
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

Yeah, almost certainly. I'll dream about VP Elizabeth Warren, though.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 21, 2024 12:46:12 pm PDT #1666 of 3451
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I think at this point Harris' experience and involvement with the current administration makes her the best choice, though I tend to align slightly better ideologically with Warren and (never gonna be President) Sanders. Still, presenting the most electable candidate is of utmost importance with 45 and Project 2025 waiting in the wings, whether that's VP Harris, Governor Newsom, Governor Whitmer, or a surprise Taylor Swift/Travis Kelce ticket.


Calli - Jul 21, 2024 1:42:34 pm PDT #1667 of 3451
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I’m hearing chatter about NC Gov. Cooper. Cooper is a Dem. who has done his best to hold back the batshit crazy from the NC legislature, which has a veto-proof Republican majority. The state is purple, just gerrymandered to hell and back. We could do worse.

But yeah, a Harris/Warren ticket would be the chef’s kiss emoji.


-t - Jul 21, 2024 2:38:37 pm PDT #1668 of 3451
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

My anxiety is fucking tired of unprecedented times.

God, yes, this


Laura - Jul 21, 2024 2:55:30 pm PDT #1669 of 3451
Our wings are not tired.

I've been extremely annoyed with all the dems calling for Biden to step down. He deserved better. That said, I've heard so many younger people complain about 2 old white guys. A large percentage of the population just wasn't interested. This move provides a more obvious choice for those who don't pay close attention. There will be a lot more interest in the election and the more people pay attention the more they will see what this choice represents.

Personally, I think Whitmer would be a great choice. A two-woman ticket would spark a great deal of interest in the race. The people who would never vote for a woman were always going to vote for Trump anyway. Women have always had a higher turnout percentage, and some unknown percentage would be excited to vote for the first time for that ticket.

Who knows, I'm in the cat hairball before Trump camp anyway so it doesn't change my vote. I just can't help but think it will improve turnout because there were so many that hated both old guys.