Everything looks good from here... Yes. Yes, this is a fertile land, and we will thrive. We will rule over all this land, and we will call it... 'This Land.' I think we should call it 'your grave!' Ah, curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal! Ha ha HA! Mine is an evil laugh! Now die! Oh, no, God! Oh, dear God in heaven!

Wash ,'Serenity'


Natter 78: I might need to watch some Buffy for inspiration

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


erikaj - Dec 08, 2025 4:21:05 pm PST #10496 of 11178
"already on the kiss-cam with Karl Marx"-

Arby's Reubens are pretty good--I liked Culver's better, but my closest one closed.


Calli - Dec 08, 2025 4:24:48 pm PST #10497 of 11178
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

That sounds festive and relaxing, JenP.

An Italian bakery had never heard of pannetone? Who do they have working there??

I know, right? The young woman at the counter went to the back to ask, and was apparently directed to call the other branch of the store. Which she did, in front of me. “Someone was asking if we carried panettone?” [pause for, apparently, a request for definition] “Yeah, I guess it’s like an enriched, yeasted sweet bread with dried fruit?” So that’s at least two people working in an Italian bakery that have never heard of it.


Sheryl - Dec 08, 2025 4:41:49 pm PST #10498 of 11178
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

This week has started in a crappy way for me. I was driving to work when I saw a car turning left right in front of me. I put on the brakes, but not in time. He crunched my front left bumper and other bits. (His car's back left region was pretty damaged.) The car is drivable, I wasn't hurt, but I'm still a bit shaken up. I filed a claim with my insurance and have appointments tomorrow morning at the body shop and Enterprise. Bleah.


JenP - Dec 08, 2025 4:44:39 pm PST #10499 of 11178

I'm glad you're OK, Sheryl, but that really stinks.


-t - Dec 08, 2025 4:45:57 pm PST #10500 of 11178
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That all sounds nice and festive, Jen! I especially like the sound of the botanical gardens

Maybe they are all about the savory at that bakery? You'd think they would have heard of it, though.


JenP - Dec 08, 2025 4:49:36 pm PST #10501 of 11178

That sounds festive and relaxing, JenP.

That all sounds nice and festive, Jen! I especially like the sound of the botanical gardens

Thanks! I'm actually glad I wrote it out; I'm holidaying after all!

Don't understand that Italian bakery sitch. I feel like maybe they need to re-evaluate that claim.


Cass - Dec 08, 2025 5:22:45 pm PST #10502 of 11178
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I'm upset the Filiberto's across the street closed.

That is so sad.

Filiberto's are the best, or were. I admit it has been awhile. But, dang, they were the best in Phoenix by far. They are also the best in San Diego but many fine fakey 'berto's exist there so it's not as clear a choice.

In local food, I should really make 2025 the year I have coffee or a meal with meara while she is local again. December Cass isn't the best Cass.


meara - Dec 08, 2025 5:23:48 pm PST #10503 of 11178

Cass! I am currently sunning myself in Palm Springs all month (well, maybe til like the 27th or 28th, tbd)


Steph L. - Dec 08, 2025 6:04:27 pm PST #10504 of 11178
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

at Arby's, which has a perfectly respectable reuben

This is good information to have.

McAlister's Deli (which is a chain, but not in every state) has a decent reuben, too.


Pix - Dec 08, 2025 9:21:27 pm PST #10505 of 11178
The status is NOT quo.

Cass! I am currently sunning myself in Palm Springs all month (well, maybe til like the 27th or 28th, tbd)

You too should carpool over to our annual XXXmas party this weekend!