That is a good question!

I feel like it's going to be related to how "wine-dark sea" is from how they thought of dark colors to be more similar than different levels of the same hue, but I'm not sure why I think that! [link]

I don't remember where exactly I was, although it was not the Mediterranean, but I have looked out at the ocean and thought "ah, yes, that is a wine-dark sea" so I have my doubts about all those ancient-people-thought-about-color-differently whatsits. I mean, experts in the subject know more than me, of course, but still.

Didn't Crayola have a "light red" crayon that was different from pink? Possibly I am remembering off-brand crayons.

And didn't pink come from a flower first and then get applied to the color? I wonder how it became so widespread.

Pretty, msbelle!

Msbelle I'm glad your friend avoided surgery.

Just to be clear I don't work off the clock . Well I may log into my handheld device right before I clock in or answer a customer's question if I'm stopped going to lunch or as I'm leaving but that's the extent of it. It was just kind of hard to feel like a couple people seemed to act like it was a bad thing, not working off the clock.

When I was on the register I would constantly tell people not to clock off before they dropped off the deposit bags. And unless I'm in danger of going into over time I will clock out as I'm walking out the door rather than before I get on the elevator.

Mom is going back to Florida. She wasn't going to but my aunt called her and she's not doing well. My aunt has , apparently, a severe UTI and a yeast infection AND she's having memory impairment that may be from the UTI, since severe UTIs can cause memory issues (and can look like dementia). My aunt said she briefly forgot how to operate her car and then got lost because she coudln't remember how to get home.

So Mom is going down between tomorrow and Thursday and then plans to stay until my cousin's ex wife gets out of jail (which should be next week) and see about my cousin's son going to live with his mom and then getting my aunt into assisted living. This is not ideal. But my aunt cannot continue to take care of her grandson. My cousin's fiancée won't take temporary guardianship of him if she has to deal with his mother at all (which honestly I can understand). Or he is going to have to go into foster care.

None of this is ideal but my aunt needs to be in assisted living.

My cousin has made improvement from his stroke but after being sent to the hospital from the rehab center because of a kidney infection due to his catheter not being cleaned regularly he is back at that rehab center because it's the only place that will take him.

askye, lots of ~ma to you and your family.

msbelle, lots of ~ma to your friend and her family.

Oof, askye, sounds like there are no good options there. I hope your Mom can help out.

Awesome, my company is implementing a vaccine mandate as of December 8. There's still a lot of corporate bullshit that goes on, but they do a lot of things right.

My office doesn't have a vaccine requirement (yet?), but we do have required masking and social distancing. For so long, I was the only one in the (huge) office, so it's disconcerting to have OTHER PEOPLE around. They make noise. They ask me questions. They don't take the used coffee packs out of the coffee maker. They should be working remotely, right?

OK, this is a stupid thing to complain about but I really want to. The way we do vacation requests and documentation at my company is with a shared Google calendar that people put their vacation time on, so everyone can see who is out and when they are coming back (months ago we were told it was not actually great for this and we would be doing something else but there has been no word of any change since then). Some people also put things like when they will be in a meeting or such for, I guess, the visibility although we can all see each others individual calendars which I personally feel is more appropriate for that. So, we have the Outlet Sale coming up and we are all supposed to be working 2 days of it, so I signed up for my shifts and put the times I will be at the Sale and therefore not at my desk (or wherever, not available for regular work stuff) on my calendar and just got an email instructing everyone to put their Outlet Sale shifts on the vacation calendar and I am angry out of proportion because it is just going to be a mess of a billion Outlet Sale shifts every day and it will be impossible to see ANYTHING at a glance but this is what we are doing. Argh.