Oh, God. Oh, God. My hair. My hair! The government gave me bad hair!

Cordelia ,'The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Laura - Sep 07, 2021 4:24:06 am PDT #8956 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

I hope you got through to them on some level, David. How horrible for the poor pup.


DavidS - Sep 07, 2021 7:51:09 am PDT #8957 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Oy, Tuesday after a three day weekend. yawnnnn

Here's a good NYT explainer on new data on breakthrough infections: [link]

In short, if you're vaccinated and wearing a mask indoors a breakthrough is still very unlikely even with Delta (1 in 5,000). Also, the emphasis on the higher viral load in Delta was somewhat misleading in that while it does make it more transmissible to unvaccinated people, if you are vaccinated you are still very protected.

We're getting into the place where people have to do their own risk assessments which includes: underlying conditions, living with somebody with underlying conditions, the vax rate in your community and your risk tolerance.

For example, in San Francisco the high vax rate means that my chances of getting a breakthrough is more like 1 in 10,000.


Laura - Sep 07, 2021 8:33:32 am PDT #8958 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

We're getting into the place where people have to do their own risk assessments which includes: underlying conditions, living with somebody with underlying conditions, the vax rate in our community and your risk tolerance.

Yes. As an example, we went to the local big annual fundraiser for the fire department, which has a couple of hundred people on Sunday. There were maybe 4-5 people wearing masks, including DH. It was in the firehouse where the 4 large garage doors were fully open, and people milled in and out. Brendon spends a lot of time in medical offices, which of course have vulnerable people around, and he will be traveling again today or tomorrow back to Florida. He felt he should wear his mask. I didn't feel uncomfortable given the open air and general spacing. No one thought twice about the few people wearing masks, and Brendon of course talked with lots of people, friends and strangers without any discomfort. Including a redneck nearly his size who talked college football with him for quite a while in the queue for food. I noticed the food prep people had gloves on and the ticket selling crew were sanitizing their hands as they handled cash and tickets.


Steph L. - Sep 07, 2021 8:55:49 am PDT #8959 of 30000
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

For example, in San Francisco the high vax rate means that my chances of getting a breakthrough is more like 1 in 10,000.

We're still going to Vermont in 2 weeks, because they have a very high vax rate and very low infection rate (comparatively). And also, even though there's not a ton of data on whether people who already had Covid can get it again, what we know so far is basically a nonzero chance, but vanishingly low.

If it were a different state, we might not go, since we don't know what's Tim's antibody level is (given his autoimmune disease and immunosuppressant drugs). But I feel pretty damn okay with Vermont.


-t - Sep 07, 2021 9:15:10 am PDT #8960 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I made my inaugural trip to Dunkin' Donuts this morning for Pumpkin Cold Brew and apple Cider Donut, an Apple Fritter and assorted other impulse buys to get me through the day. Yum. There is also a Baskin Robbins in the same building but that does not appear to be available via drive thru. n order to get an affogato it appears I will have to go in the building to get ice cream and then drive thru for my espresso. I think that is manageable, although I did not try it today.


meara - Sep 07, 2021 9:16:48 am PDT #8961 of 30000

That sounds tasty, t! I bought a breakfast burrito when I dropped the dog at daycare. I feel very behind on things. Even though I’m not really sure I am behind on anything. Frantic Tuesday mornings are dumb and I am rebelling by….posting here instead of catching up.


-t - Sep 07, 2021 9:37:55 am PDT #8962 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That is my kind of rebellion


Calli - Sep 07, 2021 9:43:20 am PDT #8963 of 30000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I just tried a white pumpkin mocha. It was a lot. Tasty, but a lot.

While I was in Michigan, I wore my mask inside in public spaces and went maskless inside with vaccinated family. It’s the same protocol I’m following in NC, as infection rates are pretty similar.


Jessica - Sep 07, 2021 9:45:21 am PDT #8964 of 30000
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

I made my inaugural trip to Dunkin' Donuts this morning for Pumpkin Cold Brew and apple Cider Donut

FALL!!!


Steph L. - Sep 07, 2021 9:48:24 am PDT #8965 of 30000
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

apple Cider Donut

You bet your ass I'm getting a cider donut from the One True Apple Cider Donut place in Vermont (Cold Hollow Cider Mill).