We have to see the chimp playing hockey! That's hilarious! The ice is so slippery, and, and monkeys are all irrational. We have to see this!

Anya ,'Bring On The Night'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sheryl - Jul 25, 2021 2:12:17 pm PDT #8118 of 30000
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

There was a torrential downpour as we were driving to the concert last night. Luckily, it stopped in time for the concert, which was fun.


Laura - Jul 25, 2021 2:25:25 pm PDT #8119 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

How did the babysitter do, Sheryl?


DavidS - Jul 25, 2021 2:42:52 pm PDT #8120 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Also, the study in Israel about the Pfizer vaccine was with a very small study group, which means their results should be taken with a grain of salt. I wouldn't panic yet. ND and I are also House Pfizer.

There was a NYT explainer on why the Israel numbers were probably not accurate.

Current estimate is about 85% effective against any symptomatic expression of Delta variant with Pfizer/Moderna. And less than 1% hospitalized or dying.

Of the current literature I've read on Delta, it's generating a much higher viral load, and building up more quickly. So it's more transmissible even in outdoor settings. This has to do in part with its ability to form synctia (new word for me!) or cell clusters that work as viral factories.

A good rundown of the technical aspects of Delta: [link]

"The Delta variants (there's actually more than one in the same viral family), have about 15 different mutations compared with the original virus. Two of these, L452R and E484Q, are mutations to the spike protein that were first flagged as problematic in other variants because they appear to help the virus escape the antibodies we make to fight it.

It has another mutation away from its binding site that's also getting researchers' attention — P681R.

This mutation appears to enhance the "springiness" of the parts of the virus that dock onto our cells, said Alexander Greninger, MD, PhD, assistant director of the UW Medicine Clinical Virology Laboratory at the University of Washington in Seattle. So it's more likely to be in the right position to infect our cells if we come into contact with it.

Another theory is that P681R may also enhance the virus's ability to fuse cells together into clumps that have several different nuclei. These balls of fused cells are called syncytia.

"So it turns into a big factory for making viruses," said Kamran Kadkhoda, PhD, medical director of immunopathology at the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio."


meara - Jul 25, 2021 6:08:46 pm PDT #8121 of 30000

Yeah I think getting moderna if you had Pfizer or vice versa is not likely to help much. J&J it wouldn’t surprise me though.

I’m trying to just enjoy the summer since I kinda figure more lockdowns are likely—or if not official ones, at least “this is maybe not a great idea”


Sheryl - Jul 25, 2021 6:44:17 pm PDT #8122 of 30000
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Laura, the babysitter did fine. Apparently Mr. S was an angel for her.


aurelia - Jul 25, 2021 7:01:24 pm PDT #8123 of 30000
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Aims!!! Big hugs to you and Em!


Laura - Jul 25, 2021 7:08:57 pm PDT #8124 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

Apparently Mr. S was an angel for her.

Awesome!


Laura - Jul 26, 2021 4:47:41 am PDT #8125 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

Good Monday to all. Also, send birthday wishes to Kat G! I hope this day is filled with delight.


Laura - Jul 26, 2021 5:45:04 am PDT #8126 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

At some point this year we were talking about the perfect descriptive word for the emotion experienced widely in this Covid world. What was it? I can't remember.


-t - Jul 26, 2021 6:07:42 am PDT #8127 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Languishing?