Most people is pretty quiet right about now. Me, I see a stiff -- one I didn't have to kill myself -- I just get, the urge to, you know, do stuff. Like work out, run around, maybe get some trim if there's a willin' woman about... not that I get flush from corpses or anything. I ain't crazy.

Jayne ,'The Message'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


JZ - Feb 14, 2021 1:07:52 pm PST #3486 of 30000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Eventually people will see through him.

It's been a decade and a half, so I'm not holding my breath.

Generally I have massive compassion for people who come to grips with their sexuality late and make mistakes along the way, but... this guy isn't elderly. He's a little younger than Hec. He spent his twenties as a totally secular stockbroker in Manhattan before *choosing* to leave it all and go to seminary, and about the exact same time he was signing up for that my youngest brother was coming out himself. If an 18-year-old kid born and raised in the California suburbs and still totally dependent on his birth family for everything could muster up the courage to know and name himself without creating and emotionally torturing an entire family in order to do it, why couldn't a rich white single guy in NYC?


Steph L. - Feb 14, 2021 1:16:07 pm PST #3487 of 30000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Ugh, JZ, what a pompous asshole.

I don't regret quitting smoking, but it does pinch a little to see it on the list of things that might move you up the vaccine list.

My co-morbidities (#TeamHypertension #TeamBigFatPanda) are the reason I was able to get the monoclonal antibody treatment. (Which, bee tee dubs, still no superpowers, damn it.) (Except, I guess, staying out of the hospital is kind of a superpower.)


Jesse - Feb 14, 2021 1:22:42 pm PST #3488 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

How are you guys doing, Steph??

It's been a decade and a half, so I'm not holding my breath.

Honestly, it sounds like he moves from life to life as people do see through him.


Amy - Feb 14, 2021 1:33:52 pm PST #3489 of 30000
Because books.

Good lord, JZ. He need to meet Bertha the Cluestick immediately. What a dick.

It pushes my buttons so intensely when a member of the clergy betrays his parishioners. And his family! I mean, I know he's defrocked now, but only because he got caught sleeping around, so one would think he would still have the integrity to at least pay his children's child support. Grrr.

I don't regret quitting smoking, but it does pinch a little to see it on the list of things that might move you up the vaccine list.

I'm glad you quit! I keep reminding myself you did, so I can eventually get there.

Between asthma (which in my mind doesn't count because I smoke), diabetes, and being an essential worker, I guess I could get vaccinated now? Except no one can, not even the first group -- PA's vaccine supply, at least in this part of the state, has been royally screwed. I think one of the county commissioners said recently they requested something like 20,000 and got 4,000. And this county is 85,000 people. So my parents in their late 70s haven't even been vaccinated yet -- no way I'm jumping in line. Plus, it's been a year, and I've been exposed more than once (and once while living with the infected) and I haven't gotten it, so my feeling is I probably had it at some point.

Sorry to ramble/rant. I'm thrumming with adrenaline because I just got off work for the first time in three weeks, and it took only 15 minutes to remember what a fucking bitch my boss is, and how whiny and entitled most of our customers are.

::spreads joy and love in conclusion::


Steph L. - Feb 14, 2021 1:33:56 pm PST #3490 of 30000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

How are you guys doing, Steph??

Pretty well -- Tim went back to work this past week. (I've been working, but cut my workload by 80% so I could nap a lot.) Almost all of the cold-like symptoms are gone, for both of us. I do have some lingering fatigue that's annoying (like, I'm exhausted AND my muscles are sore even though I didn't do a damn thing), but that's apparently normal at this point. If the fatigue isn't improving over the next couple of weeks, I'll call my doctor. But I'm going to be optimistic and say that since all the other symptoms have improved, the fatigue will, too.


-t - Feb 14, 2021 1:36:50 pm PST #3491 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That’s so good to read, Tep! Pretty decent superpower, on balance.


Laura - Feb 14, 2021 1:38:24 pm PST #3492 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

JZ, that is just horrific. I am so sorry he was ever a part of your lives. I'd spin him a spite, but no one spins a better spite than a JZ spite, so whatever you and yours have wished upon him I am sure is appropriate.

IIRC, there had been some strain with your son

Alas, it was never resolved, but I try and keep communication open in hopes that he comes to his senses some day and realized the damage he has done. I'm not cutting them out of my life, but I am not offering to help them with babysitting or anything either. We had planned to move closer to them, but I've told DH we move where it is best for us. 30 years of living for kids is more than enough.


JZ - Feb 14, 2021 2:11:07 pm PST #3493 of 30000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Alas, it was never resolved, but I try and keep communication open in hopes that he comes to his senses some day and realized the damage he has done.

I'm so sorry--but I'm glad you are doing what you need to for self-care.


Sheryl - Feb 14, 2021 2:16:04 pm PST #3494 of 30000
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

I am scheduled for my second COVID shot on Tuesday.

We ordered dinner from a nearby Greek mezze place for Valentines' Day. Of course Mr. S ended up having a meltdown because he wanted mac-and-cheese, which is not on the menu there.(This while Gary was on his way out to pick dinner up. sigh...)


meara - Feb 14, 2021 2:35:22 pm PST #3495 of 30000

Wow, JZ, what a tool. Did he ever pay all his child support? Because if not I’d be nailing his Marin ass to his dock.

Dog continues to love snow. Snow continues to come down. But it’s juuuuust above freezing now, so maybe things start to melt? I shoveled the walkway three times already in the past 36 hours, don’t want to again. And would like to eventually be able to leave the house??

Laura, def for the best to do for you. They’ll come around or they won’t. I’m def jealous of my one set of cousins who all have kids and live within a mile of their parents and have sleepovers and babysitters galore....but I wouldn’t want that in my own family and you work with what you’ve got. Unlike the other set of aunt/uncle on that side, who got COVID after a road trip, and whose kids are taking their kids to wrestling tournaments in other states (!!!), at least my fam is taking COVID seriously. And my parents should be fully vaccinated now, I think.