Yes. Men like sports. Men watch the action movie, they eat of the beef, and enjoy to look at the bosoms. A thousand years of avenging our wrongs and that's all you've learned?

Xander ,'End of Days'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Calli - Feb 10, 2021 4:27:00 pm PST #3356 of 30000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I mean, is it wrong to threaten brick throwing aloud?

Not wrong, but it would hurt me more than him, so probably not effective.

And, 20+ minutes later, we're done.


JenP - Feb 10, 2021 4:28:48 pm PST #3357 of 30000

Not wrong, but it would hurt me more than him, so probably not effective.

Wise.


JZ - Feb 10, 2021 4:29:14 pm PST #3358 of 30000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

I have no words! I was hoping you all would have words.

There are a few in the Buffy & Angel thread, but not a lot. Mostly, MT's very vague words are deeply unsettling, and we're all noticing that none of the men have spoken up yet at all.


Dana - Feb 10, 2021 4:33:36 pm PST #3359 of 30000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

The only words I really have are that I'm glad my participation in online fandom has given me the tools to reclaim media from creators who don't deserve them. Buffy is mine now, just like Harry Potter is mine.


-t - Feb 10, 2021 4:34:57 pm PST #3360 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That's a sweet conversation, JenP


-t - Feb 10, 2021 4:36:19 pm PST #3361 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That is something to hold onto for sure, Dana.

I haven't read through all the links yet and I'm already just sick about it.


Beverly - Feb 10, 2021 4:39:04 pm PST #3362 of 30000
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Allyson! Welcome home!

Please don't feel this is aimed at you because it isn't. But it's a thing that's been noticeable to me. I mean, I'm glad we're here, but why is it always tragedy or disaster (or impending tragedy or disaster) that brings us back here, where safety is?

Can't...we be here when everything is nice, too? I mean, shouldn't we be? Or not? Theories, anybody?

ETA: I did not see the precipitating circumstances before I posted. I think Dana expressed my feelings about things I have been fannish about, and will, in some measure continue to hold fondly. The love and investment exists aside from the ruination that came later, at least for me.


-t - Feb 10, 2021 4:59:00 pm PST #3363 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

We're always here, Beverly. Just who makes up the we that is here changes some.


meara - Feb 10, 2021 5:05:25 pm PST #3364 of 30000

The only words I really have are that I'm glad my participation in online fandom has given me the tools to reclaim media from creators who don't deserve them. Buffy is mine now, just like Harry Potter is mine.

YES, Dana. Buffy is great. Joss is not. I will separate the creator from the creation, especially if there's a way to do that that doesn't involve putting money in the creator's pocket (be that fanfic, or supporting the actors in other projects or through fandom ways, but not paying for new Harry Potter books, for instance)


Laura - Feb 10, 2021 5:11:11 pm PST #3365 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

The only words I really have are that I'm glad my participation in online fandom has given me the tools to reclaim media from creators who don't deserve them. Buffy is mine now, just like Harry Potter is mine.

That is such a perfect way to think about this.

YAY for a few days break from the grind, -t. Any plans other than being lazing about? That is how I would spend time off. Not having to do stuff would be super cool.