Sooner or later, you're gonna want it. And the second — the second — that happens, you know I'll be there. I'll slip in, have myself a real good day.

Spike ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


erikaj - Apr 16, 2024 5:56:53 pm PDT #29826 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!

I had to take a medical exemption because of the long days and needing an attendant--I guarantee there would be leaks and such.(Besides any that I'd need to take) I think it would be hard for me to convict most people I'd get a shot at.(Convicting Individual one would give me at least imperfect happiness) Karl, you can't be powder, babe.


DavidS - Apr 16, 2024 5:58:43 pm PDT #29827 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

She says she's very thankful for the way she was brought up in many respects, but that where were issues especially with my wife.

No fucking kidding.

She also said that she saw that I was emotionally abused

Also true.

I worked with a guy who was on the jury for the Jim Jones People's Temple trial in SF (but who was on trial after the massacre, I wonder?). He had to listen to all the tapes. He didn't talk about it.


Calli - Apr 16, 2024 6:16:13 pm PDT #29828 of 30000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Happy birthday, ND!

I was on a jury once. It was an interesting experience, and I’d be ok with doing it again. Bonus points if I could send TFG to prison.


Dana - Apr 16, 2024 6:22:57 pm PDT #29829 of 30000
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

The only time I have been on a jury I found everyone took it seriously and listened to and examined everything despite it being obvious who was the scoundrel.

That was my experience too. Restores your faith in humanity a little bit.


meara - Apr 16, 2024 9:58:01 pm PDT #29830 of 30000

I would not want to be on the Trump jury for fear of notoriety, but also because how long would I have to be off work? I think the only political podcast I listen to is Wait Wait Don’t Tell Me, but I imagine they’d disqualify me somehow anyway. Like, does going to the Women’s March count as going to an anti-Trump protest? And if we find a bunch of people who totally ignore politics I have questions about what rock they’ve been under for 8 or more years…


Vortex - Apr 16, 2024 10:10:43 pm PDT #29831 of 30000
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

She also said that she saw that I was emotionally abused and I failed to role model self-advocacy which was bad for her own ability to self-advocate.

This is none of my business, and I certainly haven't liked some of the things that you've said about the way you are treated by your wife, but I really don't love that your daughter seems to be blamng you for her perceived failing. It's like saying "I know you had a broken leg, but it's your fault I didn't learn to walk."

Re the Trump jury - I could be impartial. There is ample evidence that the Orange Menace is a lying liar who lies, so I wouldn't believe anything he said without direct corroborating evidence, but that's not being partial, that's just paying attention to history.


Laura - Apr 17, 2024 5:38:02 am PDT #29832 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

Today is a day of celebration in Buffista land! Happy birthday to Sheryl! May it be a lovely day filled with treats, and may the year to come be joyful.


Toddson - Apr 17, 2024 6:05:26 am PDT #29833 of 30000
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

I used to be called for jury duty every two years. But since I moved (2020) they seem to have lost me. It was sometimes an experience - the first trial, a civil one against a company that led to the client being injured - the lawyer was crying. Some of the evidence was eye-opening - a big bag of crack, guns, etc.


Jessica - Apr 17, 2024 8:02:02 am PDT #29834 of 30000
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

When I first moved to NYC (25 years ago, almost) I got called for jury duty twice in a row (once for Kings County, once for NYS) almost immediately, was put on the jury both times, and haven't been called since. I have no idea how anyone could be a truly impartial juror for Trump, though - one of the requirements is to consider only the evidence presented in court and I just don't know how that's possible with someone whose full time career for decades has been Being An Asshole On Television.

In self-care news, my local rec center pool is finally open again after 6 months of renovations and you guys, OMG. SWIMMING. (They are still not finished renovating the locker rooms, but at least the delays in re-opening the pool means it's warm enough outside that I can drive home wet and use my own shower without my hair freezing on the walk to the car.)


Shir - Apr 17, 2024 10:36:15 am PDT #29835 of 30000
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

(skipped and skimmed a bit)

Happy birthday, Sheryl! Happy belated birthday, ND!

Flight news: United canceled their flights to and from Israel until next week. I'm flying next Friday. I do not like this game at all, and I'll probably know only on the day of the flight if I'm flying or not.