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Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


P.M. Marc - Aug 20, 2023 12:31:43 pm PDT #24163 of 30000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Don’t apologize for loving so hard that having to say goodbye makes it overflow, you wonderful humans you. Don’t apologize for being real, and open, and honest in our love and grief.

I'm so glad Matilda decided to be a part of it, as you've watched her all grow up.

I am so glad she was there to see our love for not just her mom, but for all of you. She’s a good kid.


Sophia Brooks - Aug 20, 2023 12:40:52 pm PDT #24164 of 30000
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I don’t think anyone used this word, but it seems to me a thread that connected many memories-JZ is an advocate, and a very good one and a very quiet one. From her open political work, to the Twitter and Facebook conversations, to Erika and others writing, to Emmet’s phone, to the children getting cardiac surgery, and even being there for many of us with social anxiety… all of it can be summed up as advocacy. I am glad she has you, David, and Matilda, and Lisa, and Emmett’s Mom and Nanita and Juliana being advocates for her.


javachik - Aug 20, 2023 12:44:43 pm PDT #24165 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

Yeah, Sophia, I almost spoke again but knew I'd not be able to. Because I wanted to talk about how she never gives up on anyone. She's the embodiment of "nevertheless she persisted". She was so patient, even with jerks on twitter, trying to use common sense and compassion with people I would think of as undeserving of my time. JZ thinks every human was deserving of time.


askye - Aug 20, 2023 12:48:32 pm PDT #24166 of 30000
Thrive to spite them

I keep thinking about what Andrew Garfield said on the Late Late Show with Stephen Colbert about his mother's death:

“I love talking about her, by the way, so if I cry, it’s only a beautiful thing,” Garfield explained. “This is all > the unexpressed love, the grief that will remain with us until we pass because we never get enough time > with each other, no matter if someone lives till 60, 15, or 99.”

“So I hope this grief stays with me because it’s all the unexpressed love that I didn’t get to tell her,” he > added. “And I told her every day. We all told her every day. She was the best of us.”

I feel like we could have told JZ we love her every day since we've known her and it still wouldn't be enough time or enough words. Or any of you.

Javachik-- you have nothing to apologize for it was such a beautiful memory.


sj - Aug 20, 2023 12:50:42 pm PDT #24167 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

True to form I burst into tears the minute I logged off, and then ltc came running back in the room to hug me. I can’t cry in front of so many people, I guess.


erikaj - Aug 20, 2023 12:53:40 pm PDT #24168 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!

I feel bad thinking that her positivity made me underestimate her a little.(Not the first time I ever did that, and I don't think it wrecked the relationship, but I'm sorry.)


javachik - Aug 20, 2023 12:57:54 pm PDT #24169 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

I feel like we could have told JZ we love her every day since we've known her and it still wouldn't be enough time or enough words. Or any of you.

Too true.


Java cat - Aug 20, 2023 1:06:50 pm PDT #24170 of 30000
Not javachik

I forgot to say until just a few people were on at the very end, that I talked to Katie Bee yesterday & she sends her love to JZ & to everyone. Her sister Jenny died two weeks ago yesterday from complications with brain cancer & she didn't think she'd make it today.


Betsy HP - Aug 20, 2023 1:10:03 pm PDT #24171 of 30000
If I only had a brain...

Hey, friends. I only just heard.

David and Jacqueline, I am so very very sorry to hear your news. Jacqueline is one of the kindest people I remember from Buffistas; those are the things that spring to mind for me, her kindness and her wicked humor.

To give you some idea, I came down to get a hug my husband, who was never a Buffista but lurked. When I told him it was Jacqueline, he said "Oh, no!" He remembered her as one of the good ones, even though she was never a part of his online life.

I'll be holding you all in the Light, and I'm so very sorry.


EpicTangent - Aug 20, 2023 1:11:43 pm PDT #24172 of 30000
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

I just went to Better World Books and ordered a copy of The Counterpane Fairy that JZ recommended. With that order, it makes 100 books I've donated through them. Which feels like a fitting tribute to her as well.