Illyria: We cling to what is gone. Is there anything in this life but grief? Wesley: There's love. There's hope...for some. There's hope that you'll find something worthy...that your life will lead you to some joy...that after everything...you can still be surprised. Illyria: Is that enough? Is that enough to live on?

'Shells'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Gudanov - Aug 07, 2023 11:58:52 am PDT #23586 of 30000
Coding and Sleeping

Best Wishes, JZ and David

My daughter and her husband visited us the weekend before last and it was really nice to see them. Not sure when my other daughter and her girlfriend are going to get married, still in the early planning stages. A high school friend of mine died (stupid fucking cancer) over this last weekend which it taking some getting used to.

In less important news, we recently acquired a Subaru Outback (I had a Ford Maverick on order, but finally gave up on it. Besides, the Outback is a better dog transporter) and just did the first oil change this weekend. It is amazingly easy on the Outback, I didn't have to jack it up to drain the oil and oil filter is on the top of the engine so it's just right there when you pop the hood. I think it is actually less hassle to do it myself than to go to a lube place.


Typo Boy - Aug 07, 2023 1:43:41 pm PDT #23587 of 30000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

JZ is surrounded by the love of multitudes and throngs of friends, and that will not change.


erikaj - Aug 07, 2023 2:23:29 pm PDT #23588 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!

I love my mother, owe her everything, and we do talk a lot...something that Jacqueline seemed to respect, but we don't have those conversations. I don't believe we ever have, unless "If you notice a guy is cheap when you're dating him, don't marry him," and the story about her "heirloom" engagement ring being a fake counts.(She knew because, like me, the fake metal that they use on costume jewelry, watchbands, and such, gives her a terrible rash.) Nobody would pass down a fake, would they?(/keen detective instincts) Anyway, I can't *buy* a point today, but I think Matilda is lucky that her mother was willing to try, though maybe we all have our own paths to take and advice doesn't help that much.


Sheryl - Aug 07, 2023 3:30:33 pm PDT #23589 of 30000
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

The A/C is fixed now. There are thunderstorms going on now, and a tornado watch. Always something...


Jesse - Aug 07, 2023 3:35:11 pm PDT #23590 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

That message to Matilda is lovely. My heart just hurts for her.

Gud, I can't believe TCBITW is married!


erikaj - Aug 07, 2023 3:47:11 pm PDT #23591 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!

I know, Jesse. Kind of feeling a hundred from that.


Cass - Aug 07, 2023 4:59:07 pm PDT #23592 of 30000
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

JZ is surrounded by the love of multitudes and throngs of friends, and that will not change.

This is so true. It will always be true.


erikaj - Aug 07, 2023 5:13:52 pm PDT #23593 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!

yeah...kind of hoping she meets ita and Ginger and Connie again, if there is somewhere that she goes,


katefate - Aug 07, 2023 6:05:59 pm PDT #23594 of 30000
Frail my heart apart and play me a little Shady Grove

Hello, I love you all, even across all the time and space. My heart hurts. Especially for M - this is how I lost my mom. JZ, your words mean everything. I keep thinking, I'm lucky just to have known you. I'm at a loss, except for love, love love.


Java cat - Aug 07, 2023 6:23:13 pm PDT #23595 of 30000
Not javachik

You're both amazing people & how sad & how wonderful that you can be there for & with JZ, David. A friend who was a volunteer hospice worker said, Who is to say that death is not the greatest joy? (If there's an afterlife, which, probably not but if so, I hope Ed & Ginger & ita & Connie Neill are there to greet her. Jacqueline could tell them how very very much they are missed and how sad it was to not get to say goodbye to them, or to see them get to do things they'd wished for, like Connie & travel.) Please tell Jacqueline I said goodbye & I'll always remember how amazing she has always been, a jaunty red hat & lipstick enlivening the boring Berkeley Rep usher dress code, the wonderful camaraderie of the Ren Fair people partying in West Marin, and always her kindness, but tartness & correctiveness to trolls or (xkcd) "people on the Internet who are wrong," (Ginger could write a ripping good paragraph about commas), and Jacqueline's brilliant pen. JZ is amazing to read, in any venue or forum, brilliantly expressive of her unique take & keenly intelligent point of view. She's always been one of my favorite writers (her & Rebecca Solnit) & I will miss that voice so very much, even from afar. (& Thanks for the referral to the law firm in Portland, everyone's happy with them.) Godspeed. I consider myself lucky to have known you even a little bit, JZ, thanks to this board.