You walk in worlds the others can't begin to imagine.

Drusilla ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Laura - Oct 09, 2022 5:05:13 pm PDT #17916 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

I'm so sorry for the loss of your friend, and is it a good thing that you are able to forgive him. Suicide lingers in a most difficult way for those left behind.

Swim lessons start later this month!

I really need to do that. At home I swim pretty much every day, like for an hour at a time, but I dork swim because I have such an issue with swimmer's ear that I won't put my head in the water. I need to just use the earplugs and learn to swim like a normal person.

Also, OMG, the pumpkin pasta I made tonight was so good. And I froze another 5 servings for future delight. It was a big pumpkin. Roasted pumpkin seeds were a bust because I forgot about them and they were overcooked, but I have another pumpkin and will try again.


JenP - Oct 09, 2022 5:15:29 pm PDT #17917 of 30000

That sounds so good, Laura!

Same re : dork swim. I really want to make swimmimg my primary exercise, so learning how to do it with some good form is my goal.


DavidS - Oct 09, 2022 7:47:08 pm PDT #17918 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I'm so sorry for the loss of your friend, and is it a good thing that you are able to forgive him. Suicide lingers in a most difficult way for those left behind.

The memorial was super loving and sweet. They all acknowledged the mental health issues, so it wasn't like people were tip-toeing around it. But the focus was just on what a kind, good, loving, funny, smart, charismatic guy he was. How much he loved his family.

His best friend since childhood, who idolized him, read from like five pages of memories and it was all so funny and heartfelt and heartbreaking.

His third child, Noah, who is only a Freshman in HS spoke and it was brief but so tender and funny. He told a story about how Drew would do anything to make his kids happy. And the youngest, Josh, wanted this fancy gaming system, which he got for his birthday. But Drew noticed that the gaming system had 8K capacity, and their TV had a mere 4K. So, over everybody else's objections, Drew just came home with a gigantic 8K TV to put a smile on Josh's face. And Noah said, with deeply loving exasperation, "It was just so...irresponsible." And it was a huge laugh line because it really encapsulated something essential about Drew. His irreverence, and the deep well of his love for his family.

Also, a bittersweet reunion for Matilda's elementary school soccer team, as I saw all those parents for the first time since 2019 (when another one of the parents had died).


Laura - Oct 10, 2022 5:33:38 am PDT #17919 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

I hope the memorial was comforting for the loved ones. It sounds lovely.

I've had a couple friends who have committed suicide, and my heart absolutely ached for the amount of pain they must have been enduring. In the depths of my grief when Steve died, I contemplated what the chances were that I would see him again if I joined him. Fortunately, I couldn't convince myself that it was a real possibility and knew at some level it was the loss driving those thoughts. Mental health struggles are so often much harder to treat than physical health struggles. Far from one size fits all solutions.


Steph L. - Oct 10, 2022 7:38:16 am PDT #17920 of 30000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Tim's chest x-ray looks good and the chest tube has been removed! He should be discharged by 1 or 2 this afternoon. Thank goodness. I still need to scrub the shower, but that won't take long. Everything else is as ready as it can be.

We've had perfect fall weather here for the past week, and it looks to be the same for the next few days, so he might end up sitting in the rocking chair on the front porch to enjoy the weather. Not a bad way to recuperate.


amyparker - Oct 10, 2022 8:22:35 am PDT #17921 of 30000
You've got friends to have good times with. When you need to share the trauma of a badly-written book with someone, that's when you go to family.

Morning!

Driving north to look at a house today; I'm not sure what ~ma to ask for, because moving is a PITA and I will miss the friends I've made here. OTOH, another bedroom (so people could stay over), a mile from my goddaughter and her family, a wraparound deck and private beach access, plus a woodstove, for a hundred dollars more than we're paying now. Wish us a safe trip there and back, maybe.


-t - Oct 10, 2022 8:30:12 am PDT #17922 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Safe trip and good outcome, amyparker

Great news, Tep! Rocking chair sounds like a win.

Glad to hear the memorial was so loving, Hec.


Laura - Oct 10, 2022 8:40:40 am PDT #17923 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

Sounds quite delightful, amyparker. ~ma!

Ah, rocking chair recovery is an excellent plan.


Calli - Oct 10, 2022 8:46:26 am PDT #17924 of 30000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I'm glad the memorial was good, David.

And congrats on the Art Nouveau piece. If it had been closer to me, I would have nabbed it and been in a similar "where do I put this now" situation. So I'm glad it went to a good home.

I'm glad Tim will be home soon, Steph.

I tried making pumpkin bread yesterday to serve to a friend who hates cloves and allspice (notable components of pumpkin pie spice mixes), and therefore misses out on many things pumpkin. It was ok, but I can definitely see why cloves are usually used. I think if I try it again, I'll up the ginger more and maybe the mace. Anyway, my friend loved it—ate 1/3 of the loaf and took a ginormous piece to go.


Steph L. - Oct 10, 2022 8:58:25 am PDT #17925 of 30000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I tried making pumpkin bread yesterday to serve to a friend who hates cloves and allspice (notable components of pumpkin pie spice mixes), and therefore misses out on many things pumpkin. It was ok, but I can definitely see why cloves are usually used. I think if I try it again, I'll up the ginger more and maybe the mace. Anyway, my friend loved it—ate 1/3 of the loaf and took a ginormous piece to go.

I like cloves in pumpkin pie, but it hits kind of weird in pumpkin bread. When I make pumpkin bread I use cinnamon, ginger, and nutmeg. I should try mace, too.