Buffy: How bored were you last year? Giles: I watched 'Passions' with Spike. Let us never speak of it.

'Beneath You'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Aug 23, 2022 8:25:27 am PDT #17026 of 30000
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

My brother and SiL are in town for a pre-planned visit. Unfortunately, he and I are spending a lot of time and energy wrangling Dad, because his hallucinations are worse than ever and he's demanding his guns back. I sent a message to the geriatrician about his worsening state, and we'll go from there.

It is really, really hard to hold some sympathy for him because he's clearly unwell, because at the same time, he's such a complete asshole. He treats my brother horribly, constantly insults and berates him and belittles his choice to be a therapist. And even though Dad treats me better than that ("better" being relative), I don't want to have anything to do with someone who treats my brother like that. It's unacceptable. Plus he also said to my brother (in the context of a conversation about how he physically abused our mother while they were married) that "sometimes words don't work and you have to get physical to make them understand."

I don't want that motherfucker in my life anymore, and I'm so fucking drained dealing with this. I'm ready to jump on a plane and go anywhere but here.


JZ - Aug 23, 2022 8:29:04 am PDT #17027 of 30000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Oh, Tep, I'm so sorry. How absolutely shitty and intolerable.


Laura - Aug 23, 2022 8:30:18 am PDT #17028 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

Travel~ma, lisah!

I'm so sorry, Teppy. It is hard enough to deal with this type of illness with someone who has been good to you and treasured, but it adds a whole other level of misery when complicated this way. I wish there were some advice that would make it easier. This too shall pass?


DavidS - Aug 23, 2022 8:34:25 am PDT #17029 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

The outfit that tried to kill me.

MurderPants so stylish!

that "sometimes words don't work and you have to get physical to make them understand."

Do you really have to keep attending to him? It seems like somebody that toxic and abusive is a person you could put up more boundaries with. I don't know what's viable, but he's not a loving father. He's basically a full time asshole, now with exciting hallucinations.

Wishing you smooth flight -ma, lisah!


Steph L. - Aug 23, 2022 8:35:21 am PDT #17030 of 30000
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

This too shall pass?

It will, one way or the other. The meds he had in the hospital (in intravenous form, pretty high doses) did stop the hallucinations. When he was discharged, he was prescribed the same med (Zyprexa), but at a really low dose. My brother obviously knows a lot about meds for mental health issues, and he thinks a much higher dose will help Dad. I truly hope so, because Dad is an asshole, but I don't wish any kind of illness on him.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 23, 2022 8:38:29 am PDT #17031 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Yikes JenP! Glad you're okay. And have a cute if murderous outfit.

I found out late yesterday the stone cottage had already sold before I even saw the listing, but the sellers left it up in case things fell through before closing. Oh well.


Steph L. - Aug 23, 2022 8:42:14 am PDT #17032 of 30000
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

that "sometimes words don't work and you have to get physical to make them understand."

Do you really have to keep attending to him? It seems like somebody that toxic and abusive is a person you could put up more boundaries with. I don't know what's viable, but he's not a loving father. He's basically a full time asshole, now with exciting hallucinations.

Ohio has a "filial responsibility" law — it's a first-degree misdemeanor if a person fails to provide adequate support for an aged or infirm parent unable to provide his or her own support. I don't know how enforced it is in practice, but in theory it sounds like a way to force adult children to care for their abusers. So that's fun.


askye - Aug 23, 2022 9:01:10 am PDT #17033 of 30000
Thrive to spite them

JenP I hate when cute clothes end up being harmful, this has happened to me before (not falling that bad but being tripped up or getting something caught on a door).

Lisah- I hope you get to Scotland asap and enjoy the trip.

Steph - would you feel like you could consult an elder care lawyer to see what you and your brother's actual responsibilities would be and to find out how you could minimize your contact with your dad and for it be legal?

Speaking of lawyers I have to go by the lawyer's office today to sign paperwork for the worker's comp lawyer so they can get medical records. We are still waiting on medical records from the neurologist.

I have a therapy appointment at 1 and I'll be sitting in my car venting about this whole Covid situation...I'm still feeling ok and planning on testing in the morning before work to make sure I'm negative.


Laura - Aug 23, 2022 9:13:28 am PDT #17034 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

Continued negative~ma, askye!


Jesse - Aug 23, 2022 9:16:00 am PDT #17035 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Holy shit, Steph, that sounds harrowing.