Tara: Do you have any books on robots? Giles: Oh, yes, dozens. There's a lot of research to be done in order to--no, I'm lying. Haven't got squat. I just like watching Xander squirm.

'Get It Done'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


JZ - Apr 19, 2022 2:26:20 pm PDT #14604 of 30000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Fingers crossed, askye!

That is an awesomely cute 4th skort, Laura--I hate that certain factions in this country have made me feel like I'd rather eat my own face than wear any patriotically-themed clothing, but, sigh, yeah. You are going to rock it at Otter Lake, though.


meara - Apr 19, 2022 2:28:02 pm PDT #14605 of 30000

Askye that’s bananas that your dental work keeps breaking!! That sucks.

I am drowning in work—a new project is demanding way more of my time than it’s supposed to, I’m behind on my other projects, and the person in charge of the new one is out for this week AND next week and left me as her backup and I just want to reply all to the millions of emails that I don’t know and they should figure it out their damn selves. I already told her boss that I was “about to lose my god damn mind” so…and she’d only been out a day and a half at that point. Aaaack


askye - Apr 19, 2022 3:02:18 pm PDT #14606 of 30000
Thrive to spite them

My dentist joked last time that he was going to start calling me "Jaws" (from Dr, No) because of how strong my bite seems to be. I seem to be the only person that is having this issue.... I think it's a combination of a strong bite, that my jaw tends to shift around a bit when I'm stressed so I often am placing pressure in different places, and having jagged teeth. I think this time I managed to flip a piece of the triscuit on end and bit down harder than I meant to and it snapped. Or something.

but it's snapped at the connection between the crowns- or at least it broke and I was able to wiggle it free and that was where it had broken off. Which is different from last time.


Laura - Apr 19, 2022 3:21:55 pm PDT #14607 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

I hate that certain factions in this country have made me feel like I'd rather eat my own face than wear any patriotically-themed clothing

I just refuse to let them think they own the flag. It is horrible that you have to look askance at anyone who displays a flag. I do the same thing too. But my Otter Lake peeps have always gone nuts on the 4th, or really any reason to party, and I won't let them take it away from me!

It seems to me that a bridge should handle a strong bite. I hope he comes up with a better solution than eating pudding.


beekaytee - Apr 19, 2022 3:57:16 pm PDT #14608 of 30000
Compassionately intolerant

I hate that certain factions in this country have made me feel like I'd rather eat my own face than wear any patriotically-themed clothing, but, sigh, yeah

What JZ said, but what you said too, Laura. And, CUTE!

Question: Have any of y'all had experience with ozone treatments for eliminating odors in a home? Or opinions about the efficacy of same?

After spending 6 weeks on the move, trying to avoid going back to the toxic apartment, I finally got the offer from the building. They'll pay for the ozone machine, or I can get out by the end of the month and pay 6k+ to break the lease. This is actually a deal, apparently, as they could otherwise charge me upwards of 15K...which does not include the expense of moving into a new place.

It seems worth giving something that might reduce the VOCs a try. Especially when an ozone machine would, at max, cost $300.

Paying someone to do it would cost around $3100, so I need some orientation on how to diy it safely.

Please, God. Let something work out right in this situation!


askye - Apr 19, 2022 4:11:06 pm PDT #14609 of 30000
Thrive to spite them

beekaytee I 'm hoping that something works out for you that doesn't cost thousands of dollars.


Laura - Apr 19, 2022 4:58:57 pm PDT #14610 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

It seems worth it to try a DIY option. Of course I know zero about ozone stuff, but knowing nothing about things has never stopped me on a DIY project in the past!


dcp - Apr 19, 2022 5:11:04 pm PDT #14611 of 30000
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

What are the VOCs in question? Are they still being generated? Is there any reason to be confident that an ozone generator will actually help?


meara - Apr 19, 2022 6:37:51 pm PDT #14612 of 30000

Um, an ozone machine sounds like a scam. Do air purifiers not help? The link below basically says that it did help some of the VOCs from a new carpet but produced other chemicals just as bad, in the reaction??

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JZ - Apr 19, 2022 7:20:07 pm PDT #14613 of 30000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

I'm not sure about retail ozone machines, which do sound kind of scammy, but full-bore ozone treatment is a different thing (hiring a professional group to basically blast your home and/or belongings, for a bare minimum of 2-3 times the cost of an ozone machine and often more). When my dad's home burned down and all our belongings and the cars were permeated with smoke stink, intensive ozone treatment dealt with most of it.

This WaPo article from 2018 seems to have a pretty good rundown of exactly how they work and what they entail (moving, covering or hiding away all the plants, fabrics and art that isn't under glass; 48 hours of sealing the property off; an extra airing-out afterward before it's safe to reenter).

I don't know all the details, but I do know that (a) all our belongings that survived the fire reeked in the beginning; and (b) after it was all done, there was maybe a single banker's box left of unsalvageably reeking stuff.

tl;dr: ozone machines, scammy like meara said; professional ozone *treatment*, lots more costly and may take a week to complete before safely moving back in but probably not scammy?

I dunno if any of that is remotely helpful.