I'd rather stay home and watch television. It's often funnier than killing stuff.

Anya ,'Dirty Girls'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Katerina Bee - Nov 22, 2020 11:21:13 am PST #136 of 30000
Herding cats for fun

Thanks for the kind words. I’m always glad when my cats die naturally at home instead of being euthanized at the vet’s office. It’s much more peaceful and less scary than having to go for a ride in the car.

Lily understands that something is wrong, so she climbed into my lap and washed Dave’s hand when he petted her. She will miss snuggling with her furry friend.


Shir - Nov 22, 2020 11:33:33 am PST #137 of 30000
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Oh no, Katerina Bee! I am so sorry to hear about Pearlie. Tons of ~ma to you and your family.


JZ - Nov 22, 2020 12:02:51 pm PST #138 of 30000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Katie Bee, I'm so sorry. This has been a rough year for Buffista pets; I'm giving the piggies extra cuddles right now (Prubs is tolerant of affection, Marcie resents almost all humans almost all the time, but both are grudgingly putting up with it).

::hugs the stuffing out of Karl, carefully pats the stuffing back into place--good as new!::

Does anyone have tips for behavioral management for older cats with social issues? My mom just adopted a cat who it turns out is somewhat older and more emotionally difficult than she had been told (among other things, long history as a largely outdoor cat with what sounds like some neglect, even after she limped back in from a fight with serious injuries--she got medical treatment, but as soon as she was healed they let her right back out again), and who is hard to handle and very overdue for a checkup and shots (the last time her last human brought her to the vet, they couldn't get her out of the carrier even with heavy gloves). CBD or other calming treats? If so, which ones? Would it be a good idea to just get her a new carrier since the old one with the old smells is associated almost entirely with trauma? Are there carrier styles (maybe something that opens from the top?) that are easier for handlers to manage? Any and all advice eagerly welcomed.


Cass - Nov 22, 2020 12:08:01 pm PST #139 of 30000
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Edited: Umm, do we know who (Jen) is who isn't JenP?

That was me. Thank you for emailing or I'd have missed it. Would have been better if I had a phone charger. I think I'm going to change my Zoom background to a picture of being on a boat.

It was so good to see everyone.


msbelle - Nov 22, 2020 12:11:33 pm PST #140 of 30000
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Cass - I sent you an email.


Cass - Nov 22, 2020 12:13:02 pm PST #141 of 30000
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Definitely a top open carrier, Feliway spray which is a cat mommy hormone that can calm (if it works, they have wall plug ins that will work long-term) and see if the vet will will prescribe gabapentin before the appt. If you're okay with it, let them know they can muzzle. And they might need to sedate once she's there.


Laura - Nov 22, 2020 12:22:28 pm PST #142 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

{{Katie-Bee}} I'm sorry for your loss, but agree that it is the easiest way for all.


JZ - Nov 22, 2020 12:27:32 pm PST #143 of 30000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

From the records, she's been prescribed gabapentin before--the problem would be getting it into her; she's a big girl and I suspect will be just about un-pillable unless we can find a pill pocket she thinks is yummy enough.

I was looking at this carrier: top *and* front opening, or this one: similar, but boxier (but maybe the open sides will make her more anxious and she needs something more covered?). She's a bit of a chonker--somewhere between 15 and 20 lbs.


msbelle - Nov 22, 2020 12:44:47 pm PST #144 of 30000
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I'd crush the pill and mix it in wet food.

I had a carrier with roll up side panels so I could cover the mesh, but I am not seeing any like that.


JenP - Nov 22, 2020 1:02:08 pm PST #145 of 30000

I'm sorry about your Pearlie, Katerina Bee, but glad for her easy passing.