Mal: There's plenty orders of mine that she didn't obey. Wash: Name one! Mal: She married you!

'War Stories'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Dec 02, 2021 5:56:40 am PST #11041 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh sure, that side of things is a whole different question. But I'm not even 50 and I have no interest in teenagers! Never mind if I were 150.


Laura - Dec 02, 2021 6:13:16 am PST #11042 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

Oh yeah, I didn't even like them when I was a teenager.


-t - Dec 02, 2021 7:00:33 am PST #11043 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

It does seem like vampires are skeezy creepers but each one is supposed to be with that one exceptional girl who transcends age or something, right?

But, yeah, it’s weird.


lisah - Dec 02, 2021 7:08:25 am PST #11044 of 30000
Punishingly Intricate

And if you were alive in a time where teenagers were basically middle-aged thanks to a life expectancy of, like, 40ish, maybe it makes more sense?


-t - Dec 02, 2021 7:19:07 am PST #11045 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Hm. I can see the logic of that but I don’t think it’s how shorter life expectancy works


Jesse - Dec 02, 2021 7:59:28 am PST #11046 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I guess 18-year-olds were less dumb if they were running a household, but still.


Topic!Cindy - Dec 02, 2021 8:17:39 am PST #11047 of 30000
What is even happening?

My great-grandmother got married at 14, which is unreal to me.

On my way to work, I was listening to a podcast about vampires, as one does, and I have to say: the older I get, the more ridiculous I think it is that these vampire dudes would want to go out with high school girls. It's so gross! And honestly, from middle age, 30-year-olds still look young and beautiful to me and at least they have some sense and life experience!!

1. I completely agree.

In fact, I have no desire to watch any vampire-related series. I keep seeing people here talking about What We Do in the Shadows, and while I should enjoy it in theory, I can't get past my "Nah, vampires suck" reaction to watching yet another bloodsucker series. I blame this feeling on my having recapped The Vampire Diaries, which made me pay way more attention to The Vampire Diaries than it was ever meant to bear.

2. There is a theory that addicts (who are not in recovery) stop maturing at the age they start using, so I've extended the vampirism = addiction metaphor to 300 year old vampires who become enamored of schoolgirls. So, for example, with Buffy and Angel, at the time (and in the era) in which Angel was sired, it would not have been unusual for Liam and Buffy to get together.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 02, 2021 8:48:53 am PST #11048 of 30000
"You should never say bad things about the dead, only good… Joan Crawford is dead. Good.” —Bette Davis

Maybe "hmm, their blood smells fresh and vital" overrides "when are they going to stop talking about Pokémon?" for vampires?

I did like that in What We Do in the Shadows Viago referred to his romance with a 96-year old as May/December with her being the younger half of the couple.


-t - Dec 02, 2021 9:02:59 am PST #11049 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Laszlo and Nadja are like the polar opposite of that whole idea, though, right?

I mean, it's really meant to be, like, a draw for the putative teenage girl audience to have power over the good looking and dangerous supernatural being, but it's just such a widespread pattern that is disturbing on its own merits. Any particular couple, fine, they can have their reasons, but there are SO MANY


Steph L. - Dec 02, 2021 9:08:08 am PST #11050 of 30000
Apparently if you're enough of a power nerd, there is nothing that cannot be flowcharted.

Laszlo and Nadja are like the polar opposite of that whole idea, though, right?

Laszlo and Nadja are #goals.