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Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Laura - Nov 29, 2021 3:34:00 pm PST #10962 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

My age limit for traipsing across the campground to use the bathroom in the middle of the night was a whole lot younger than your mom's. Still love camping, but the comfort requirements have changed over the years.


DavidS - Nov 29, 2021 4:04:12 pm PST #10963 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Teppy, I had the same type of epiphany a number of years ago when my mom in her 90s insisted in no uncertain terms that my elder years would be a whole lot easier if I got my health act together earlier.

My sciatica experience was the same wake up call. And now I run the steps five days a week regularly. Or until my knees give out. Thinking about exploring Pilates now, which seems easier on joints.


Steph L. - Nov 29, 2021 4:07:13 pm PST #10964 of 30000
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

My age limit for traipsing across the campground to use the bathroom in the middle of the night was a whole lot younger than your mom's.

Right? Although I would have been okay with renting a camper van that doesn't have a bathroom and is just tricked out with a comfy sleeping arrangement; if I *had* to traipse across the campground to pee, I would have. But basically, we can't tent camp any more because we are both too rickety. (Also, tent camping sucks and always has.) But when we found that the best rental price was an actual small Winnebago with bathroom and fridge, then hell yeah we rented it, and it was a delight.

(I can already forsee our own retirement years, and they're going to involve a camper. But that's cool by me.)


JenP - Nov 29, 2021 4:08:28 pm PST #10965 of 30000

I empathize and sympathize with the aging parent issues. It's not easy. And same re: recognizing the importance of trying to stay active -- my mom suffered a lot of mobility loss because of her essentially sedentary lifestyle, so I'm trying to learn from that. Hell if she didn't keep, like, 95% of her mental faculties though. Seriously fucking impressive and, I hope, a good sign for me in that regard.


dcp - Nov 29, 2021 4:13:39 pm PST #10966 of 30000
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

Thinking about exploring Pilates now, which seems easier on joints.

Tai Chi?


JenP - Nov 29, 2021 4:13:48 pm PST #10967 of 30000

Definitely no al fresco bathroomimg or traipsing for this gal anymore. Nope.

I say that like I used to do it a lot. I did not. Don't think I've ever slept overnight in a tent, and I know I've only had to use an outhouse once e in my life. I'm OK with that.


EpicTangent - Nov 29, 2021 4:14:59 pm PST #10968 of 30000
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

I empathize and sympathize with the aging parent issues. It's not easy. And same re: recognizing the importance of trying to stay active -- my mom suffered a lot of mobility loss because of her essentially sedentary lifestyle, so I'm trying to learn from that.

Cosigned. Since Covid, my physical health has fallen off in a big way. No in-person 5Ks, no dance classes, no classes at the gym, etc. I actually lost weight during quarantine, but part of it is that I lost any tiny bit of muscle tone I ever had. Now things are creeping back to normal, well, "normal", I've got to start making a real effort to get off the friggin couch more regularly. But seeing what my mom went through her last 5-10 years really made an impression.


Steph L. - Nov 29, 2021 4:15:19 pm PST #10969 of 30000
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

My sciatica experience was the same wake up call. And now I run the steps five days a week regularly. Or until my knees give out. Thinking about exploring Pilates now, which seems easier on joints.

Endurance-wise, I'm just trying to add walking time in increments of literally 1 minute. It is brisk walking, like, definite breaking-a-sweat walking, so there's that. I am actually optimistic that I'll get back to pre-Covid levels, but I can't guess how long that will take. And I hiked in Vermont without slowing anyone down, so I'm not decrepit. I'm just hyper aware of where I was pre-Covid and where I am now, 9 months later.

Anyway, I really need to take a page out of my mom's book and do some yoga, too, because I am emphatically not bendy. I also need to get back to lifting weights, because muscle mass is pretty damn important as we all get older. (Another true story about my bionic mom: she had developed osteoporosis [or maybe just the precursor osteopenia], and her doctor started her on meds for it. Mom threw herself into a regimen of lifting weights and, for real, not just stopped the bone loss but actually reversed it and doesn't have to take the meds any more. She's a wunderkind.)


JenP - Nov 29, 2021 4:17:44 pm PST #10970 of 30000

That makes me feel doubly good about the fact that we decided to go lift tonight!

Epic, I hear you.


Cass - Nov 29, 2021 4:25:36 pm PST #10971 of 30000
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I still don't have the cardio endurance I had before Covid. And when I say "cardio," I mean brisk walking. I'm at maybe 2/3 the capacity I was before.

I came down with Covid a year ago and hills both up and down are still brutal. Long Covid blows. Covid antagonizing other issues into serious issues that I might be facing for the rest of my life (hyponatremia for as yet unknown exact causes) blows most of all for me.

My sciatica experience was the same wake up call. And now I run the steps five days a week regularly. Or until my knees give out.

Easier on joints overall is best but knee surgery would scare me less than (more) back surgery. And faster recovery.

Staying as active as possible is important with aging. My Dad died at 80 and he had pain/poor mobility for so long before that he seemed much older to me. Mom died when she was 80 and we walked every weekday morning for a few miles with elevation changes. She was a very young 80, apart from her heart stopping. They both lived to exactly 80 but had such different experiences. My stepmom might outlive me potentially. Because she had knee surgery.

(I can already forsee our own retirement years, and they're going to involve a camper. But that's cool by me.)

I so want to do more camping. Any camping.