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Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Toddson - Oct 21, 2021 7:11:20 am PDT #10094 of 30000
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

I heard something on the radio about a cruise company offering pretty much that. An around-the-world cruise that takes several months starting in ... I think 2023.


Laura - Oct 21, 2021 7:16:43 am PDT #10095 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

That would be perfect, Dana. I love the whole being waited on and your room cleaned up daily part lots.

Yes, -t. Some retirees basically live on cruises, which makes some sense.


JenP - Oct 21, 2021 7:37:05 am PDT #10096 of 30000

I think I'd like the around the world cruise idea, though my DP has a vague claustrophobia (not the right word) about being trapped on a ship. Like, he could live on a boat that HE could control, but I think an around the world cruise would give him hives. Eh, he could just fly from port to port so we could keep up. Ha! Yeah.

Laura, I love the idea of you living on a boat, in your happy place! Also, I could then say that I have a friend who lives on a boat, which, you know, always looking to up my cool factor vicariously.

I feel like msbelle would be a master purger. Or is a master purger.


Laura - Oct 21, 2021 7:57:23 am PDT #10097 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

Yes, I would love to bribe msbelle into helping me purge! It will be a project.


Calli - Oct 21, 2021 8:04:12 am PDT #10098 of 30000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

My MI-based sister and BiL plan to retire to their boat in the summer, spring, and fall, with a nearby condo that they'll rent out. The plan is to do laundry in the condo in between renters, and live in FL during the winter.

I've heard worse plans. Sis already basically lives on the boat in the summer. (She's a teacher who doesn't have to pick up a second job in the summer.) So she knows the ins and outs of the boating life.


meara - Oct 21, 2021 8:20:04 am PDT #10099 of 30000

I would only want to go on a cruise like that if I already knew they had good food and I liked the other people who went on that kind of cruise? But I don’t usually do cruises. I guess I could see someday when I’m old doing those European river cruises PBS offers with all the other retirees who want to feel posh?


Calli - Oct 21, 2021 8:33:18 am PDT #10100 of 30000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

those European river cruises PBS offers with all the other retirees who want to feel posh?

I think those sound like a step up from bus or train tours in that you're setting into the equivalent of your hotel room, and then take it from city to city—no packing or leaving a shoe under the bed. Of course, you're constrained by the presence of a navigable river by the city you want to visit. But, historically, I believe many cities grew up around navigable bodies of water, for ease of trade and whatnot. So your odds are good.

I'd give one a try.

I'm also interested in renting one of those canal boats if I ever get a long trip to England. They seem like a fun way to see a fair bit of the country.


-t - Oct 21, 2021 8:56:16 am PDT #10101 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That sounds like a terrific plan, Calli! Jealous of your sister and BiL now

I haven't really done a proper cruise, the closest I've been were one that was actually on a ferry and one that was on a tiny ship (boat?) that was actually great but not a typical cruise at all. Probably pretty similar to those river cruises, actually.

I have a marina right near me and it would in some ways be pretty practical for me to live on a boat, the big obstacles being (a) the cat probably wouldn't like it, (b) I have Too Much Stuff, and (c) I'd have to acquire a boat. A camper trailer or van or RV would, I think, be cheaper to buy? Not sure how marina fees compare to campground fees.


Toddson - Oct 21, 2021 9:06:11 am PDT #10102 of 30000
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

The long-term cruise I heard about would have you on the same ship with pretty much the same people all the time ... which sounds like it could get kind of claustrophobic in regard to the people. The river cruises sound nice - the advantage of being in the same room all along is appealing. Although I understand the Viking cruises involve little, if any, looting and pillaging.


-t - Oct 21, 2021 9:55:54 am PDT #10103 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I have gotten to the point in today's workload where the only things I have to do are things I really just don't want to start. And a meeting.