Zoe: What's that, sir? Mal: Freedom, is what. Zoe: No, I meant what's that? Mal: Oh. Yeah. Just step around it. I think something must've been living in here.

'Out Of Gas'


Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Apr 29, 2019 12:04:02 pm PDT #7358 of 30019
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Yeah, here's hoping he gets his shit together with a quickness.

Even if he doesn't, does it help to know that all the kids I knew who were a mess at that age eventually got their shit together? And mostly did it outside of their parents' house? I know a lot of people who couldn't deal with anything at that age, some of whom wasted their parents' money on some college (but not a degree!), some of whom didn't. They all became adults!


sj - Apr 29, 2019 12:11:46 pm PDT #7359 of 30019
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I'm so sorry, msbelle. Is he seeing a therapist? I know my depression as a teenager often manifested anger and indecision.


Laura - Apr 29, 2019 12:13:13 pm PDT #7360 of 30019
Our wings are not tired.

Yes, what Jesse said. I know so many people, including myself, that were total screwups at that age. And grew up to be fine adults!


msbelle - Apr 29, 2019 12:19:13 pm PDT #7361 of 30019
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

He has no older person that he hangs out with that could be a safe landing place. He has $41 and no job. There is no girlfriend with understanding parents who like him. None of his friends even had plans to move out of their parents' home and none of them have the means. I am sure he can spend 1-2 nights somewhere, but this without a doubt ends up with him back here or me being called to get him somewhere.

No he's not in therapy. He has refused for 3-4 years.


Laura - Apr 29, 2019 12:36:29 pm PDT #7362 of 30019
Our wings are not tired.

When he finds out he has no place to crash he may be more open to a renegotiation of terms.


Sheryl - Apr 29, 2019 12:54:24 pm PDT #7363 of 30019
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

I'm sorry it's come to this, msbelle.


-t - Apr 29, 2019 1:31:15 pm PDT #7364 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Crap. Minor whinge: I have a conference call in the morning with JCP and I spent all day today getting Amazon's vendor portal updated and have no more brain cells left to prep my report for the call. Bah. The only thing I can think to do is come in early and that's gonna suck.


-t - Apr 29, 2019 2:55:18 pm PDT #7365 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Aw, man, I just heard John Singleton died. Sad. So young!


Beverly - Apr 29, 2019 3:01:03 pm PDT #7366 of 30019
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

msbelle, you've been a rock in the face of unfair winds for mac, and that he fails to see that, or to even try to find his feet with your help is not something you can accept blame for.

I'm sending strength and every kind of good vibe I can to you, and every impulse to awareness and responsibility to mac.

Every possible good wish.


Sue - Apr 29, 2019 3:05:10 pm PDT #7367 of 30019
hip deep in pie

I'm sorry this is happening msbelle. I hope mac smartens up soon.