On my seventh birthday, I wanted a toy fire truck, and I didn't get it, and you were real nice about it, and then the house next door burnt down, and then real firetrucks came, and for years I thought you set the fire for me. And if you did, you can tell me!

Xander ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Theodosia - Mar 10, 2019 5:42:54 am PDT #5806 of 30019
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Even for contract work, they build in the ramp-up time, which has to be annoying, but unless you have a very elaborate spec laid out for you, there's so much system knowledge and business logic to get up to speed with.


Laura - Mar 10, 2019 5:57:08 am PDT #5807 of 30019
Our wings are not tired.

Once again may I extol the virtue of grocery delivery!


Gudanov - Mar 10, 2019 10:01:01 am PDT #5808 of 30019
Coding and Sleeping

Laura - Mar 10, 2019 10:11:59 am PDT #5809 of 30019
Our wings are not tired.

It sounds like Engineering Director is a lot more reasonable than Team Lead.


Gudanov - Mar 10, 2019 10:13:51 am PDT #5810 of 30019
Coding and Sleeping

Yeah, I think so.


Atropa - Mar 10, 2019 10:38:55 am PDT #5811 of 30019
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Team Lead is being unreasonable, and I'm glad that Engineering Director is better.

a team of industry veterans, not fresh college graduates unaccustomed to the nature of professional software development. I don't want this to happen again.

Has Team Lead been living in a utopian dream world of software development? Because all the industry vets I've worked with 1) needed ramp-up time, and 2) were consistently terrible at communication.


Jessica - Mar 10, 2019 10:42:29 am PDT #5812 of 30019
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Gee if I didn't know better I'd say Team Lead is covering his own ass by throwing Engineering under the bus.


Atropa - Mar 10, 2019 12:12:53 pm PDT #5813 of 30019
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Gee if I didn't know better I'd say Team Lead is covering his own ass by throwing Engineering under the bus.

A long-standing tradition in the software industry!


Amy - Mar 10, 2019 12:40:35 pm PDT #5814 of 30019
Because books.

ND, I'm so sorry to hear that. I wish I could help. Sending all kinds of helping vibes instead.


Theodosia - Mar 10, 2019 1:13:38 pm PDT #5815 of 30019
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

What Amy Said, ND. Are there any vendors that you could arrange to pay late with a penalty, or get any of your regular customers to give you money down on next month's work (yeah, I don't run my own business, so my speculating is probably 100% worthless and/or you've already figured through that part and the answer is nope.)

Gud, sounds like things may well improve. Fingers crossed.