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Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Atropa - Oct 08, 2018 10:46:25 am PDT #550 of 30019
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Gud, you did NOTHING wrong. NOTHING. You are not a bad person. You are being emotionally abused, and you (and the kids!) deserve so much better.

As to "the worst thing," when you are calmer, ask her to explain. If she won't, that's just an unkind and abusive thing to say and it's not worth even thinking about. If she does, then you can work though it together.

This needs to be repeated, and scrappy is wise.


Connie Neil - Oct 08, 2018 10:56:48 am PDT #551 of 30019
brillig

Please believe all of us over the one of her. Please at least entertain the idea that she could be wrong.


askye - Oct 08, 2018 11:02:17 am PDT #552 of 30019
Thrive to spite them

So I didn't hear 2 of moms phone calls and 2 of dad's and they are trying to ask me/tell me stuff due to a hurricane.

I didn't get them because the phone was in a cooler and the wind was blowing at the beach. No one was mad at me.

You should ask her about the worst thing and if she says you should know or something to avoid explaining then this is another sign she is abusive.


Laura - Oct 08, 2018 11:14:56 am PDT #553 of 30019
Our wings are not tired.

The cruelest thing that has been done is her making you believe for even a moment that you aren't the loving and responsible father, husband, and citizen that you show yourself to be every day. She is abusive and setting a horrible example for your children.


Theodosia - Oct 08, 2018 11:52:34 am PDT #554 of 30019
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Gud, what happens when you call her bluff? I mean, point out that she is being too hard on you? Sometimes, breaking the pattern that a person falls into can be a very good thing, in that it helps them see what is really going on.

What is the worst thing that can happen if you text her back: "Let's talk when I get home. I'm turning off my phone now." What would she do?


Steph L. - Oct 08, 2018 12:12:43 pm PDT #555 of 30019
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

Every work day, I text Tim around 5 p.m. to see when he thinks he'll be home, because his schedule is irregular and I have anxiety about not knowing when he might have left work and when to expect him home. Most of the time he replies pretty quickly to my texts (because he knows that's how I'm managing my anxiety), but sometimes he misses them for an hour or so, and once in a while his phone battery has died so he couldn't get my text at all.

Here's the thing: when he doesn't reply to my texts right away, or doesn't reply at all, I don't get angry at him. Because I know he's human and sometimes he misses a text and sometimes phone batteries die. Missing a text -- even when he knows that missing a text might make my anxiety worse -- is not proof that he doesn't care about me. It's just a thing that happens to imperfect people.

Gud, your wife is setting up tests for you without even telling you that she's testing you*, and they're rigged from the start anyway, because there is literally no way to pass a test that an abuser sets up. It's set up to prove a point she has already decided is true, and to make you feel like shit because you couldn't pass her impossible test. That's manipulative and abusive. Please tell me she doesn't pull this shit with your children. Please.

*(I mean, if you hit the point where one spouse is setting up secret tests for the other spouse, you're kind of fucked anyway. That's not a marriage, it's a sadistic game.)


Dana - Oct 08, 2018 2:10:45 pm PDT #556 of 30019
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

I was working on a presentation I may or may not present at tomorrow's 7AM meeting, putting in speaker's notes. Then I realized that I'll be sharing my screen, so that won't work.

So then I started putting the notes into Word, before remembering that Word also shows on the screen.

I'm going to have to put my notes on paper, like a barbarian.


-t - Oct 08, 2018 2:22:44 pm PDT #557 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Good thing you have those old-fashioned skills, Dana.


EpicTangent - Oct 08, 2018 2:25:03 pm PDT #558 of 30019
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

You sound like me when my debit card got hacked very early on a three day weekend. I canceled my card, then at CVS had to write a check for my purchases, like a caveman.


Steph L. - Oct 08, 2018 2:31:37 pm PDT #559 of 30019
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

I canceled my card, then at CVS had to write a check for my purchases, like a caveman.

Sometimes my brother and I will go in with my mom on a big present, like for a 50th wedding anniversary, or whatever. Mom is 72 and will never, ever, understand PayPal. So my brother PayPals me his share of the $$, and then I write a check to mom for my share plus my brother's share. It's one of the only checks I write all year.