You got all kinds of learnin' and you made me look the fool without tryin', and yet here I am with a gun to your head. That's 'cause I got people with me. People who trust each other, who do for each other, and ain't always lookin' for the advantage.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sheryl - Feb 21, 2019 12:41:15 pm PST #5179 of 30019
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

Today it was sunny and around 50 F. Weird weather.


-t - Feb 21, 2019 12:59:26 pm PST #5180 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Ugh, Tep. That sounds awful.

I went out and picked up bbq for lunch, a sandich for lunch and ribs I will bring home for dinner and a small portion of bacon-wrapped brisket bites so I could see how they tasted. I am pretty happy with those choices so far, although I would like a nap a little more than i usually do at this time.


Steph L. - Feb 21, 2019 1:07:15 pm PST #5181 of 30019
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

bacon-wrapped brisket bites

Just reading that made me start drooling like Homer Simpson.


-t - Feb 21, 2019 1:12:12 pm PST #5182 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

They are, in fact, that good.


meara - Feb 21, 2019 7:53:18 pm PST #5183 of 30019

It occurs to me one reason people would be against gun owners needing insurance is that most straight white dudes would have the highest insurance rates! Like as a woman, it's be cheap, but a dude who was 25? Yeah, good luck finding someone to insure you having that gun...you could be a mass murderer! I mean probably not, but statistically...


Theodosia - Feb 22, 2019 3:06:09 am PST #5184 of 30019
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

You should be able to lower that premium by passing a strict gun handling (marksmanship, cleaning and assembling, legal aspects, first aid for gunshot wounds), plus proof of a gun safe in your residence.

I really think part of our problem with guns in this country is that we've aged out of a population where a majority of the males either hunted or spent time in the military learning gun handling, so that firearms have become more of a fantasy weapon rather than a practical tool to be respected.


Jesse - Feb 22, 2019 3:41:52 am PST #5185 of 30019
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I wonder why people aren't talking more about restrictions on ammunition? That feels like a harder argument to counter -- if you want the gun for protection or hunting, aren't 20 bullets (or whatever) plenty to have on hand at once?


Gudanov - Feb 22, 2019 4:04:02 am PST #5186 of 30019
Coding and Sleeping

If you want to go to a range or shoot bottles in a field, you can go through a lot of ammo. I kinda feel like more liability would good. If the consequences for your kid getting ahold of one of guns and accidentally shooting someone were pretty severe then maybe people would at least keep their guns locked up. That would reduce a lot of deaths, especially suicides. Hell, just a public awareness campaign about keeping your guns secure might help save lives. I mean keep your handgun in a lockbox on your nightstand if you are paranoid. It only takes a couple of seconds to punch in a four digit pin.

I really think part of our problem with guns in this country is that we've aged out of a population where a majority of the males either hunted or spent time in the military learning gun handling, so that firearms have become more of a fantasy weapon rather than a practical tool to be respected.

I think you're right. Gun ownership seems more about identity than need in a lot of cases.


Jesse - Feb 22, 2019 4:20:52 am PST #5187 of 30019
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

If the ammo lives at the range, no problem. Maybe people should shoot fewer bottles in fewer fields, but I know I'm an anti-gun (typed "fun" the first time!) pinko and no one would listen to me.


Calli - Feb 22, 2019 4:25:00 am PST #5188 of 30019
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I really think part of our problem with guns in this country is that we've aged out of a population where a majority of the males either hunted or spent time in the military learning gun handling, so that firearms have become more of a fantasy weapon rather than a practical tool to be respected.

There was an article about the decline of hunting in some MI paper. Hunting license fees are a non-trivial part of the park budget there, so it's an issue. More women are hunting than used to, but not enough to make up for the decline. It's strange to me. When I was growing up, November 15—the opening of deer season—was an unofficial school holiday. Stores had "deer widow" sales. If you were anywhere near a wooded area you kept your dog inside that week. It was a major cultural thing, like church or politics. Escanaba in da Moonlight played it for laughs, but hunting really was that big a deal.

It only takes a couple of seconds to punch in a four digit pin.

Or even less to activate a fingerprint lock. If they can put that on a phone, they can put it on a gun safe.