I'll be in my bunk.

Jayne ,'War Stories'


Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Consuela - Jan 23, 2019 7:48:28 am PST #4223 of 30019
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Generally, if someone has an offer in hand, giving them more money is not going to resolve the reasons they want to leave. Or I believe that's what Ask A Manager says.

When I first went to the fed, I asked them to match my salary. They said, "We don't negotiate that," and I said, "Fine, but I won't take a pay cut," and we went back and forth a few times, until they asked for proof of my salary. I started midway up the grade instead of the bottom, which made a huge difference for me.

Anyway, just because the policy is not to negotiate, doesn't mean there aren't ways to negotiate.


Jesse - Jan 23, 2019 7:52:02 am PST #4224 of 30019
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Also, in the family often sucks category, the MAGA wing of the family has gone so far as to post stuff on FB that he should have gotten more time.

Oh god.

Several members of my staff could benefit from this (those that deal directly with the faculty could rally support if they had an offer to leave, and every other local campus pays more, I think). Some could not. What the heck do I do with this information?

You could say off-hand that it never hurts to try, despite the stated policy? But I do think if someone wants to leave for non-money reasons and has another offer in-hand, they are probably going to leave.


meara - Jan 23, 2019 8:14:21 am PST #4225 of 30019

Yeah, I think at a certain point even if it IS just money reasons, if you've gone through all the work to get a new job offer, getting that matched might still not be worth it.


Theodosia - Jan 23, 2019 8:47:49 am PST #4226 of 30019
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Hugs to you all, Laura (though I might aim a kick or two in the direction of the MAGAites).


Dana - Jan 23, 2019 9:57:43 am PST #4227 of 30019
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

So Trump and Pelosi are playing chicken with the State of the Union. I think Trump's expecting Pelosi to blink, but she just sent him another letter basically saying, not gonna happen.

I feel like this probably won't lead to nuclear war or something equally horrible, so I'm trying to enjoy it.


Laura - Jan 23, 2019 9:59:42 am PST #4228 of 30019
Our wings are not tired.

I'd like him to show up to make his speech and have only the Reps show up, and no network except Fox carries it.

It is such a delight to watch him try and best Pelosi. You are so ill equipped, Dude.


Dana - Jan 23, 2019 10:06:51 am PST #4229 of 30019
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Twitter is telling me that he can enter the House chambers, but he has to have permission to speak from the podium/dais of the House.

If it comes down to those rules of order, what side to the Republicans fall on? As repulsive as they are, they tend to stick to most procedural rules, I think.


Sparky1 - Jan 23, 2019 10:18:58 am PST #4230 of 30019
Librarian Warlord

Friends, I have ordered a pillow of my dog, because there is a Groupon that made it $10: [link]

It's my understanding that Pelosi can keep C-SPAN from broadcasting, so not even FOX would be able to show it. My guess is the Senate will invite him because they have the votes there.


-t - Jan 23, 2019 10:24:53 am PST #4231 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That's a good question. They really like to weasel their way around procedural rules when they can, though.


-t - Jan 23, 2019 10:25:54 am PST #4232 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That is not my first thought of what "pillow of my dog" would mean. I hope it's cute!