They're doing it backwards; walking up the down slide.

River ,'Ariel'


Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Fred Pete - Jan 23, 2019 4:36:52 am PST #4216 of 30019
Ann, that's a ferret.

((((Laura and family))))


Laura - Jan 23, 2019 4:46:18 am PST #4217 of 30019
Our wings are not tired.

The Miami news filmed the whole hearing and had an article on their website. It was actually pretty fair and non-exploitative, for which I am grateful. The news when it first happened (Sep '16) was awful.


msbelle - Jan 23, 2019 6:54:18 am PST #4218 of 30019
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Laura, can you find out if he can be sent books, or if the prison he will be sent to can accept donations? If you are willing, information on the types of books he and any inmates he befriends would like could be a project for us. God knows we all have books and also knowledge of authors and subjects.


Steph L. - Jan 23, 2019 6:57:31 am PST #4219 of 30019
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Laura, can you find out if he can be sent books, or if the prison he will be sent to can accept donations? If you are willing, information on the types of books he and any inmates he befriends would like could be a project for us. God knows we all have books and also knowledge of authors and subjects.

msbelle, you continue to be the nicest. This is a great idea!


Gudanov - Jan 23, 2019 6:58:10 am PST #4220 of 30019
Coding and Sleeping

Furnace broke down this morning, but luckily it just turned out to be carbon deposits on the flame sensor. I got me a wire-brush attachment for my Dremmelâ„¢ and cleaned the sh*t out of it. Working fine now.


Laura - Jan 23, 2019 6:59:10 am PST #4221 of 30019
Our wings are not tired.

I'll ask, msbelle. Thanks.

Also, in the family often sucks category, the MAGA wing of the family has gone so far as to post stuff on FB that he should have gotten more time. Got off easy, blah blah blah. Of course the ones that did all kinds of stupid ass stuff when they were teens. And still are doing stupid ass stuff, including the 40 something year old that drives shit face drunk often. Zero self reflection or compassion. The victim's family were more compassionate and accepting of the decision than his asshole cousins. Ugh.


Sparky1 - Jan 23, 2019 7:05:31 am PST #4222 of 30019
Librarian Warlord

Ugh, Laura. Sometimes I just rely on Mr. Rodgers: Look for the helpers. (Ignore the rest.)

Here's my current work dilemma. For as long as I have worked here, various offices on campus (who make policy/should know) have said that the campus will not match offers to give someone a raise. They just do not enter into those negotiations. I just learned that our interim dean matched a salary offer in an attempt to keep someone here (it failed). Several members of my staff could benefit from this (those that deal directly with the faculty could rally support if they had an offer to leave, and every other local campus pays more, I think). Some could not. What the heck do I do with this information?


Consuela - Jan 23, 2019 7:48:28 am PST #4223 of 30019
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Generally, if someone has an offer in hand, giving them more money is not going to resolve the reasons they want to leave. Or I believe that's what Ask A Manager says.

When I first went to the fed, I asked them to match my salary. They said, "We don't negotiate that," and I said, "Fine, but I won't take a pay cut," and we went back and forth a few times, until they asked for proof of my salary. I started midway up the grade instead of the bottom, which made a huge difference for me.

Anyway, just because the policy is not to negotiate, doesn't mean there aren't ways to negotiate.


Jesse - Jan 23, 2019 7:52:02 am PST #4224 of 30019
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Also, in the family often sucks category, the MAGA wing of the family has gone so far as to post stuff on FB that he should have gotten more time.

Oh god.

Several members of my staff could benefit from this (those that deal directly with the faculty could rally support if they had an offer to leave, and every other local campus pays more, I think). Some could not. What the heck do I do with this information?

You could say off-hand that it never hurts to try, despite the stated policy? But I do think if someone wants to leave for non-money reasons and has another offer in-hand, they are probably going to leave.


meara - Jan 23, 2019 8:14:21 am PST #4225 of 30019

Yeah, I think at a certain point even if it IS just money reasons, if you've gone through all the work to get a new job offer, getting that matched might still not be worth it.