It's simple. I slap 'em around a bit, torture 'em, make their lives hell...Sure, the nice guys'll run away,but every now and then you'll find a prince like Spike who gets off on it.

Buffy ,'Get It Done'


Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Katerina Bee - Jan 22, 2019 7:20:43 pm PST #4209 of 30019
Herding cats for fun

Oh dear, how awful for everyone. At least now you know what he's facing. So sorry to hear about this.


Shir - Jan 22, 2019 11:04:58 pm PST #4210 of 30019
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Lots of love, Laura. Indeed, awful for everyone.


Sparky1 - Jan 23, 2019 1:13:24 am PST #4211 of 30019
Librarian Warlord

That was definitely A Day, Laura. I hope he has some opportunities for school, etc. wherever he is housed.

My neighbor is an artist and writer who works in a prison near here teaching. She had one class of young men (all violent offenders, none older than 25) for a writing class and as an opening assignment ask them to write a paragraph on something no one would guess about them/be surprised about. One of them wrote a paragraph on how his favorite color was pink, and she said all the guys in the class nodded their heads and many agreed they liked pink, too. She really works hard to let them remember there is more to them than the offense for which they were convicted.


Laura - Jan 23, 2019 2:37:03 am PST #4212 of 30019
Our wings are not tired.

I hope he has some opportunities for school, etc. wherever he is housed.

I tried to stress this with his parents and the rest of the family. In the next decade he needs to take advantage of every single opportunity for education, work, religion, counseling, anything. Sign up. Keep busy. He is a voracious reader, which I think has helped him the last couple years in lockup waiting for this resolution.

I really appreciate being able to discuss this here. It is so painful. I'm fairly certain if there hadn't been the judge change the last month that the previous judge would have sentenced him as a juvenile, but no going backwards. He will certainly be an adult when he gets out.


Jesse - Jan 23, 2019 2:52:10 am PST #4213 of 30019
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

My mom is in a church group that goes to see a prisoner, but I don't know how the prisoner gets signed up for that kind of thing.

I'm so sorry, Laura. It must be so awful for all of you.


Gudanov - Jan 23, 2019 3:14:47 am PST #4214 of 30019
Coding and Sleeping

Wow, that's a rough day. Sorry, Laura.


Calli - Jan 23, 2019 3:57:34 am PST #4215 of 30019
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

(((Laura)))

Fire officials say the "hazmat has been secured." The car had a total of 225 gallons of gasoline in containers - plus a 40-pound tank of propane - had 2 flat tires and was on the 4th floor of the garage. I'm a little surprised they didn't evacuate us.

Yikes! I'm surprised they didn't evacuate y'all, too.


Fred Pete - Jan 23, 2019 4:36:52 am PST #4216 of 30019
Ann, that's a ferret.

((((Laura and family))))


Laura - Jan 23, 2019 4:46:18 am PST #4217 of 30019
Our wings are not tired.

The Miami news filmed the whole hearing and had an article on their website. It was actually pretty fair and non-exploitative, for which I am grateful. The news when it first happened (Sep '16) was awful.


msbelle - Jan 23, 2019 6:54:18 am PST #4218 of 30019
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Laura, can you find out if he can be sent books, or if the prison he will be sent to can accept donations? If you are willing, information on the types of books he and any inmates he befriends would like could be a project for us. God knows we all have books and also knowledge of authors and subjects.