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Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Consuela - Jan 20, 2019 8:47:34 am PST #4116 of 30019
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Yeah, there's a lot going on in the confrontations, including the fact that the original House of Israel group is some weird racist/anti-semitic group on their own. But it's not a good look for that all-white Catholic boys school with its all-white faculty.

I walked the dogs with my sister in the rain, got soaked, and now I'm just huddled on the coach with a pot of tea and my sweatpants.


Hil R. - Jan 20, 2019 9:05:28 am PST #4117 of 30019
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

ncluding the fact that the original House of Israel group is some weird racist/anti-semitic group on their own

Basically, they believe that the ancient Israelites who went into exile went to Africa, and then were brought to the US as slaves, and so black people in the US are the true descendants of the biblical Israelites. There's a big range of groups, and some of them believe that the (white) people who call themselves Jews are frauds who've stolen the identity of the true Israelites. (Because identifying ourselves as Jewish has worked out so great for us?) Lots of intersection with the "the Jews controlled the slave trade" people. ("The Jews controlled the slave trade" is one of the points on which Louis Farrakhan and David Duke agree.) But I wouldn't expect Catholic teenagers to know any of this.


Una - Jan 20, 2019 10:15:03 am PST #4118 of 30019
when i die, please bake my ashes into a brick and use me to hit fascists.

Ugh, before Mass this morning the acolyte in the sacristy went full-on "both sides" with the whole "If you watch the whole video you can see the man, who's an activist, provoking the kids." I wanted to yell at him, especially with the priest standing right there. THAT DOESN'T MAKE WHAT THEY DID OKAY. Turn the other cheek, do unto others as you would have them do to you, etc. Deep breaths, the discussion wasn't going to go anywhere productive. Just, ugh. So many MAGA-ites where I live.


Sheryl - Jan 20, 2019 11:35:30 am PST #4119 of 30019
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

Home now.


Dana - Jan 20, 2019 12:47:53 pm PST #4120 of 30019
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Someone on my FB page is literally praying to St. Joan of Arc for the Saints to win this game.


-t - Jan 20, 2019 1:42:50 pm PST #4121 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Doesn't seem like her particular area of interest. I could be wrong.


aurelia - Jan 20, 2019 2:08:39 pm PST #4122 of 30019
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I just watched the whole House of Israel video. My thoughts, in no particular order: I don't see Nathan Phillips provoking anyone. I do see him tying to prevent the event from being hijacked by other groups/issues. The smirky kid facing Mr. Phillips is less egregious than the kids who circled around the Native American group to surround them and the HoI group. I didn't see a single uniformed officer in the entire video. How does that happen? Were they all at the pro-life march? I am glad I've never stopped to listen to HoI dudes when I've seen them here. They were talking some shit. Most of the people who tried to engage with them realized the futility fairly quickly and walked away. There is no excuse for the MAGA kids to not have a chaperone who could do the same. The best person was the Native American guy picking up trash and I love that there was so little for him to pick up.


Hil R. - Jan 20, 2019 2:28:20 pm PST #4123 of 30019
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

The smirky kid issued a statement (which was clearly edited by one of his parents and/or a lawyer). He says that, when the HoI guys started talking shit at them, he and his friends asked their chaperone for permission to start doing some of their school chants to drown them out, and the chaperone said it was OK. The HoI guys were specifically shouting at the one black kid in the school crowd, and the chaperones' first responsibility should have been to get that kid out of the way of their abuse, not to let the rest of the students escalate the confrontation, which is what the chanting would clearly do.


Laura - Jan 20, 2019 2:40:46 pm PST #4124 of 30019
Our wings are not tired.

Someone on my FB page is literally praying to St. Joan of Arc for the Saints to win this game.

Should have tried St. Sebastian. Just sayin'.


msbelle - Jan 20, 2019 2:56:50 pm PST #4125 of 30019
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

backroom got vacuumed and most of the dishes got washed, but moping and moving things to garage did not. halfassed cleaning out of the fridge did though.

and most of the laundry from yesterday and today has been put away.

a banner weekend for cleaning for me and I did not over do it, so I shouldn't be wiped out come the morning.