Cordelia: You're him. You're Angel's son. Connor: It's not like I got to choose.

'Hell Bound'


Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Laura - Nov 16, 2020 8:22:14 am PST #29730 of 30019
Our wings are not tired.

It is wonderful to have this safe space.

I'm thinking about Thanksgiving, not necessarily that day, but maybe over the weekend. I haven't seen my Florida siblings since the first week of March. They are both in very poor health. My sister goes nowhere at all and my brother works, but the overnight shift at a gate house of a community, by himself. We are in Florida and my brother has a nice big picnic table outside in his carport. I'm thinking we could have a distanced outside meal since we all are careful in day to day life.

I just need to see them. I've already worried for months that I may never see them again and it is just hard. Judi has stage 4 kidney disease and other issues, Jim has MS and other issues. Both have diabetes and blood pressure issues. Yes, I may be able to see them next year some time, but maybe not. I spent a lot of time with my sister in NY, no hugs, but we hung out together safely and it was very helpful.

I think I am going to write to both of them and ask what they think of setting up an outside distanced gathering. It would only be 5 of us. It will be hard not to hug, but not as hard as not seeing them at all.


brenda m - Nov 16, 2020 8:33:25 am PST #29731 of 30019
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

It'll be hard, but if you can get agreement on staying distanced and careful I think that sounds reasonable.


Sue - Nov 16, 2020 8:33:30 am PST #29732 of 30019
hip deep in pie

I'm so sorry for your loss, megan.

Is US Thanksgiving this Thursday? Where has the fall gone.


brenda m - Nov 16, 2020 8:33:48 am PST #29733 of 30019
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Next Thursday.


Sue - Nov 16, 2020 9:23:02 am PST #29734 of 30019
hip deep in pie

Okay, that's better.


amyparker - Nov 16, 2020 9:23:23 am PST #29735 of 30019
You've got friends to have good times with. When you need to share the trauma of a badly-written book with someone, that's when you go to family.

My stylist sent out a text last night: "With the new restrictions, half of you are going to need to cancel your appointments through mid-December." I did get my haircut last week - we were the only two people in the salon, door open, both masked, and she was wearing a face shield - and I bought product because I would like them to be there when this is over.

Costcos in some parts of the state are out of toilet paper. Again.


sumi - Nov 16, 2020 9:39:16 am PST #29736 of 30019
Art Crawl!!!

This year. . . Megan I am so sorry for your loss.


msbelle - Nov 16, 2020 9:47:36 am PST #29737 of 30019
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I cannot believe that Tday is this close and I have no desire to cook or bake.

I am at the office today and may come in all week to help with focus. Co-worker who does a lot of stuff I do not know about yet is on vacation this week. I am having to ask a lot of people a lot of questions and it is exhausting and making me feel like an imposter.


Dana - Nov 16, 2020 10:01:21 am PST #29738 of 30019
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

Fuck, I'm completely paranoid about Thanksgiving. Rapid tests are probably accurate but maybe not accurate enough if you're asymptomatic.


Topic!Cindy - Nov 16, 2020 10:03:52 am PST #29739 of 30019
What is even happening?

megan walker, I'm so sorry to hear about Peter. I remember you mentioning him on here.

brenda, what a terrible year. My word.

I forget sometimes how much I live in my own head...like there are a few of you that I think, "I could have so-and-so call them, we're friends," but then go "Wait, are we really friends, or do I just think we're friends because I think of them so fondly...but then neglect to actually follow up with calls or messages or whatever and they think of me as just some rando that they barely know that they maybe shared a meal with that one time..." So just some Sunday afternoon overthinking things. Whatever, I love you guys.

Oh man oh man I am so glad I'm not the only one who feels this way.

I've been feeling socially paralyzed for, oh, since the beginning of June? I can barely summon the energy to post and respond here, nevermind actual email/text/phone conversations. (My job involves a lot of video conference calls, so after-hours Zoom hangouts are unfortunately really unappealing. too much phone.) I know my mood and energy levels would be better if I were less isolated but I don't know how to get out of this rut.

I am in a pit, too. I'm aways in something of a trench, but this here is a pit.

I think I've been here for a year or more. When my son was really sick, I didn't have the wherewithal to deal with anything else. He's been doing pretty well since his surgery last year, but I don't know that I ever recovered or thought about trying to climb out of the pit. I haven't decorated yet though, which might seem like a good sign, but I suspect it's because I don't even have the spoons for pit decorating.