If every vampire who said he was at the crucifixion was actually there, it would have been like Woodstock.

Spike ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Consuela - Sep 18, 2020 3:47:24 pm PDT #26412 of 30019
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

doing it in the lame duck session would hurt them in 2022

The GOP doesn't have a long-term strategy anymore (and the electorate doesn't have a long-term memory); I don't think fear of 2022 would stop the GOP in the least.

That's my big concern: what leverage does anyone have during a lame-duck session? Almost none.

Besides, we'll be in the streets anyway, trying to stop the GOP from having the GOP state legislatures from claiming they can't count the votes in time, and leaving the election up to the House of Representatives (which for this purpose votes by state and thus the GOP would win).

If our democracy survives to 2021, I will train for a fucking marathon next year.


-t - Sep 18, 2020 3:51:30 pm PDT #26413 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That makes sense, Consuela


Laura - Sep 18, 2020 4:10:46 pm PDT #26414 of 30019
Our wings are not tired.

I was peacefully out to dinner with my husband, blissfully unaware until we got in the car to go home that this tragedy has occurred.

I can't stop crying. It is so stupid to be so upset, but every damn day I think things can't get worse. And then they do.


Scrappy - Sep 18, 2020 5:10:16 pm PDT #26415 of 30019
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I just heard and got an instant blinding headache.


meara - Sep 18, 2020 6:02:36 pm PDT #26416 of 30019

Yeah I'm so fearful that in a lame duck session they won't have anything to lose by pushing it through (and possibly even more to gain if it becomes a gore v Bush type situation!). Earlier today I saw 2021 calendars at the store and was like "not close enough yet!" And now I'm scared of what else 2020 could still bring even before November!


Topic!Cindy - Sep 18, 2020 6:05:32 pm PDT #26417 of 30019
What is even happening?

I'm not buying a calendar until January 2nd. If anyone gives us one for Christmas, it's going under my bed, in a bag, until January 2nd.


Katerina Bee - Sep 18, 2020 7:11:37 pm PDT #26418 of 30019
Herding cats for fun

RBG went out like a superhero of justice. I'm sure it galled her to have to give in before the election.


Theodosia - Sep 19, 2020 3:15:37 am PDT #26419 of 30019
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

May her memory be a blessing.


Laura - Sep 19, 2020 3:43:00 am PDT #26420 of 30019
Our wings are not tired.

It would be handy to believe in an afterlife where RBG could smite away as needed. Alas, I just feel a giant hole in our earthly world.


askye - Sep 19, 2020 4:19:50 am PDT #26421 of 30019
Thrive to spite them

I am extremely pessimistic at this point. I don't think that McConnell cares about democracy or the Constitution or the rules and I think there are enough GOP Congresspeople who either feel the same way or don't feel strongly enough to oppose what they are doing. They are ok with what Trump is doing because if they weren't they could stop it.

And I think there are a lot of Americans who think it would be super cool if the GOP were to take total control of the country and make this an authoritarian government as long as the GOP is careful not to call it that and coach it in terms of religious and racist dog whistles. And then they will feel America will get back to the way it The Way it Was, the Good Old Days when Things Were Simpler. Even when they get poorer and lose more rights because it can still be blamed on liberals and the atheists.