Most people is pretty quiet right about now. Me, I see a stiff -- one I didn't have to kill myself -- I just get, the urge to, you know, do stuff. Like work out, run around, maybe get some trim if there's a willin' woman about... not that I get flush from corpses or anything. I ain't crazy.

Jayne ,'The Message'


Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - Jun 23, 2020 5:33:59 am PDT #22691 of 30019
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

We are getting full PVC repipe, but the desire to cry and smash things is much the same.


Calli - Jun 23, 2020 6:38:22 am PDT #22692 of 30019
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I'm excited about Hamliton in some ways and in others all I can do is look at all those names and think "slave holder, slave holder, supporter of slavery, liar about how all people being treated equal"

Christopher Jackson, who played Washington in the original Broadway cast, was interviewed where he talked about that. He mentioned playing a character that was both a foundational part of the American mythos and [hiding for possible dental squicks] someone who pulled teeth from his living slaves to use in his 18th-century dentures. He said it was a difficult issue to get his head around.

Nixon was preemptively pardoned.

He was pardoned by his former Vice President and member of his party, who didn't want more stuff to come out of a trial that could hurt the ability of the Republicans to have a political presence. I don't think Biden will have a similar motivation, should he be given the chance.


Fred Pete - Jun 23, 2020 6:48:25 am PDT #22693 of 30019
Ann, that's a ferret.

Our condo was built with PVC pipe. It burst while we were on vacation, so we came home to a complete mess. Luckily, we had good insurance, so we were able to spend the next 2 months in a hotel while the condo was repaired and repiped with copper pipe.

Anyone who wants to read more can check the Natter threads from the summer of 2002 (if the threads still exist). I talked about it at the time. Made the Buffy ep a few months later kind of tough to watch.


Jessica - Jun 23, 2020 6:59:14 am PDT #22694 of 30019
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

He was pardoned by his former Vice President and member of his party, who didn't want more stuff to come out of a trial that could hurt the ability of the Republicans to have a political presence. I don't think Biden will have a similar motivation, should he be given the chance.

I'm more concerned that Trump will preemptively pardon himself and his family before leaving office.


msbelle - Jun 23, 2020 7:02:27 am PDT #22695 of 30019
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Which is why the state prosecutions matter so much.

ION - LUNCH BREAK!

I have decided to go on full 14 day house quarantine, so I am not going out like I want to. And because I am spending all my money on a garage door and gate and electricity to both plus dog/dog trip, I am not ordering in. current lunch plan is a lb of cheese. hmmmm


Consuela - Jun 23, 2020 7:15:00 am PDT #22696 of 30019
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Pretty sure the President can't pardon himself, but I'm sure he will try. And if he does it on the way out the door I don't know who will stand up for him: when he's out of power I don't know how much of the GOP is going to continue to ride on his coattails. It may depend on how badly he crashes and burns, I guess.

Apparently Biden is doing really well in the polls despite not having much on-the-ground organizing going on. I mean, I live in a true blue place and I don't see any signs yet. Maybe later in the year?


Steph L. - Jun 23, 2020 7:18:41 am PDT #22697 of 30019
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

I mean, I live in a true blue place and I don't see any signs yet. Maybe later in the year?

I think I've seen one Biden sign. There are still a lot of Bernie signs up in my neighborhood, which is about right for this place. IIRC, there's still one Yang sign in a neighbor's yard, too.


-t - Jun 23, 2020 7:42:40 am PDT #22698 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Mmm, cheese.

Pretty sure the President can't pardon himself,

That seems like it *should* be true, but I feel certain that there are people advising him he absolutely can and I don't even know who would rule on that if he tries it so who knows what might happen? I hate that this is something we have to talk about as an actual possibility and not a weird it'll never happen but let's look at the limits of the law hypothetical.


msbelle - Jun 23, 2020 8:08:34 am PDT #22699 of 30019
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

good activity during online training in between exercises - seam ripping! I am getting some vintage fabric ready to repurpose - it had been a curtain.


-t - Jun 23, 2020 8:36:30 am PDT #22700 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I went and got a coffee and I am a little more awake. I keep trying to convince myself that I don't need to drink coffee every day to be functional and then when it turns out maybe I do I am sad for having the kind of lifestyle that apparently requires caffeine. Bah.

Seam ripping does sound like a good activity!