She growls?! You made her so she growls?!

Buffy ,'Get It Done'


Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DXMachina - Jun 20, 2020 2:33:36 pm PDT #22586 of 30019
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

There is a smaller crowd inside than expected.

At least they can social distance.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 20, 2020 3:22:39 pm PDT #22587 of 30019
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Health-ma to Mary!

The afternoon rains must have mellowed me out, I just disengaged and didn't comment on a co-worker's post wondering why all these protests are happening now and not during Obama's terms.


Laura - Jun 20, 2020 4:01:40 pm PDT #22588 of 30019
Our wings are not tired.

That is cute! Short style though.

I took the cats for a test drive. Drove 1-1/2 hours around Fort Lauderdale, highway, and neighborhoods. They were perfect! Never made a peep. They curled in a ball together and were happy campers. I had put a pillow of theirs in the crate and sprayed it with the kitty pheromone stuff. When I got home I unzipped the side door and one slowly came out and the other one needed persuasion. Feel like I can manage the transport to NY with them without issue. I've left it in the middle of the living room so they can go in and out the next couple days before we hit the road.


Laura - Jun 20, 2020 4:03:13 pm PDT #22589 of 30019
Our wings are not tired.

It's possible we have K-pop fans to thank for requesting so many tickets.

That is super awesome. I love the outside event cancelled for lack of attendance.


-t - Jun 20, 2020 4:41:48 pm PDT #22590 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Glad the cats are cooperative, Laura! That'll be so nice for you to have them with you up at the lake.

Probably wise, Matt


Consuela - Jun 20, 2020 6:26:54 pm PDT #22591 of 30019
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

k-pop fans and tiktok, apparently. So pleased.

Not happy about Tulsa cops randomly arresting protesters, but it seems much worse than it could have been.

Also, 45 admitted out loud that he told his staff to slow down testing in order to keep the numbers down. In any sane democracy that would result in his being run out of office. Here we get to fight for voter access to the polls for the next six months.

I said this on Twitter, I'll repeat it here: the polls showing Trump losing don't give me much satisfaction, because the polls are meaningless if people can't actually vote. And what happened in Georgia this week, and what's happening in KY next week, scare me shitless.


Steph L. - Jun 20, 2020 6:29:40 pm PDT #22592 of 30019
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

the polls showing Trump losing don't give me much satisfaction

The polls showed him losing big in 2016. I haven't trusted a poll since.


Gris - Jun 20, 2020 7:47:18 pm PDT #22593 of 30019
Hey. New board.

The polls showed him losing big in 2016.

I hate to be the stats nerd guy, but but they really didn't. On average, final polls showed him losing the popular vote by, on average, 2.5%. He lost it by about 2.1%, in the end. The polls were significantly MORE accurate in 2016 than any Presidential election since I was born.

The polls in WI, PA, and MI were a little more off, but also had relatively large numbers of undecideds, even in the final polls. The undecideds ending up breaking hard for Trump in those states.

There are many things about fivethirtyeight's political reporting I find annoying, but their pure statistical stuff is top notch, so I look to their database and model for my information. When they froze he model in 2016, their model gave Trump a 28.6% chance - better than the probability of flipping two heads in a row - and even described on November 5th, in [link] a possible scenario in which he won one or more of those states through polling error or late breaking decisions. That scenario was based entirely on simulations they performed using poll data as their input.

The fact is that Trump was lucky, but also that the polls always showed the race closer than the narrative allowed.

So I guess what I'm saying is - polls are fine and can absolutely be trusted, on average, to do a pretty good job at what they are designed to do. Just be wary of overly confident analysis or hype. (And also ignore hem until October for sure).


Shir - Jun 20, 2020 8:19:38 pm PDT #22594 of 30019
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Good thoughts in Mary's way, Laura. And yay cats who are not making fuss!


Katerina Bee - Jun 20, 2020 8:20:48 pm PDT #22595 of 30019
Herding cats for fun

I'm sad you had to return a dress with pockets.

Cute but distressingly short. Too much wind up me nethers.