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Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Laura - Jun 20, 2020 4:03:13 pm PDT #22589 of 30019
Our wings are not tired.

It's possible we have K-pop fans to thank for requesting so many tickets.

That is super awesome. I love the outside event cancelled for lack of attendance.


-t - Jun 20, 2020 4:41:48 pm PDT #22590 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Glad the cats are cooperative, Laura! That'll be so nice for you to have them with you up at the lake.

Probably wise, Matt


Consuela - Jun 20, 2020 6:26:54 pm PDT #22591 of 30019
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

k-pop fans and tiktok, apparently. So pleased.

Not happy about Tulsa cops randomly arresting protesters, but it seems much worse than it could have been.

Also, 45 admitted out loud that he told his staff to slow down testing in order to keep the numbers down. In any sane democracy that would result in his being run out of office. Here we get to fight for voter access to the polls for the next six months.

I said this on Twitter, I'll repeat it here: the polls showing Trump losing don't give me much satisfaction, because the polls are meaningless if people can't actually vote. And what happened in Georgia this week, and what's happening in KY next week, scare me shitless.


Steph L. - Jun 20, 2020 6:29:40 pm PDT #22592 of 30019
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

the polls showing Trump losing don't give me much satisfaction

The polls showed him losing big in 2016. I haven't trusted a poll since.


Gris - Jun 20, 2020 7:47:18 pm PDT #22593 of 30019
Hey. New board.

The polls showed him losing big in 2016.

I hate to be the stats nerd guy, but but they really didn't. On average, final polls showed him losing the popular vote by, on average, 2.5%. He lost it by about 2.1%, in the end. The polls were significantly MORE accurate in 2016 than any Presidential election since I was born.

The polls in WI, PA, and MI were a little more off, but also had relatively large numbers of undecideds, even in the final polls. The undecideds ending up breaking hard for Trump in those states.

There are many things about fivethirtyeight's political reporting I find annoying, but their pure statistical stuff is top notch, so I look to their database and model for my information. When they froze he model in 2016, their model gave Trump a 28.6% chance - better than the probability of flipping two heads in a row - and even described on November 5th, in [link] a possible scenario in which he won one or more of those states through polling error or late breaking decisions. That scenario was based entirely on simulations they performed using poll data as their input.

The fact is that Trump was lucky, but also that the polls always showed the race closer than the narrative allowed.

So I guess what I'm saying is - polls are fine and can absolutely be trusted, on average, to do a pretty good job at what they are designed to do. Just be wary of overly confident analysis or hype. (And also ignore hem until October for sure).


Shir - Jun 20, 2020 8:19:38 pm PDT #22594 of 30019
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Good thoughts in Mary's way, Laura. And yay cats who are not making fuss!


Katerina Bee - Jun 20, 2020 8:20:48 pm PDT #22595 of 30019
Herding cats for fun

I'm sad you had to return a dress with pockets.

Cute but distressingly short. Too much wind up me nethers.


Theodosia - Jun 21, 2020 12:24:36 am PDT #22596 of 30019
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Getting the cats used to the cage is a great idea.

In some ways I'm sorry you're not going to have co-drivers, but it's not like you haven't done the trip before.

I turned off Facebook and spent my afternoon/evening in the land of Marie Kondoing my bedroom (verdict: I have much more sheets than I thought I did, plus nowhere to put them) and watching Avatar The Last Airbender animated. Aang is super-annoying.


Laura - Jun 21, 2020 3:41:45 am PDT #22597 of 30019
Our wings are not tired.

k-pop fans and tiktok, apparently. So pleased.

I spent some time yesterday discussing the current situation with one of my medical office managers, who is Jamaican-America. She was saying that the increased involvement of youth is the most encouraging sign. Of course she still worries about the Bros voting 3rd party or writing in Bernie, and she was discouraged that the black vote went down after the uptick in 2008. BUT, from the activity we see here from the Parkland kids, and the demographics apparent in the protests here and throughout the country, the younger set is more involved and motivated than they have been in many years.

Short version, k-pop fans give me hope as another sign that apathy is on the decline. There are many factors that gave us Trump, but apathy was one of them.

Yes, I should be packing.


Sheryl - Jun 21, 2020 9:07:25 am PDT #22598 of 30019
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

Happy Father's Day to all the Buffista dads and father figures!