Death is your art. You make it with your hands day after day. That final gasp, that look of peace. And part of you is desperate to know: What's it like? Where does it lead you? And now you see, that's the secret. Not the punch you didn't throw or the kicks you didn't land. She really wanted it. Every Slayer has a death wish. Even you.

Spike ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


-t - May 02, 2020 4:42:54 pm PDT #20717 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Sorry you are having a bad week, Gud. Medical expenses are way too confusing, I'm sorry you have to deal with that. Getting a bill for an ER visit is just not a thing that should happen. It's an emergency!

I hear you on that, Rick.

I just found myself thinking that Jesse should ask her milkman to bring her an extra pint. That's something fictional people have been known to do, I think?


Jesse - May 02, 2020 4:48:55 pm PDT #20718 of 30019
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Yes! Or I could buy a pint, actually... Also another friend just suggested something shelf-stable...


-t - May 02, 2020 5:24:17 pm PDT #20719 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Grocery order delivered, no toilet paper.


Gudanov - May 02, 2020 6:04:11 pm PDT #20720 of 30019
Coding and Sleeping

Getting a bill for an ER visit is just not a thing that should happen. It's an emergency!

At the very least you should get one bill and it should be in-network or not, not a slew of bills all with their own insurance network associations. I already paid this physicans group a couple grand ages ago, after they threatened to send a bill I never received to a collection agency. Now a year later, I'm getting contacted by a collection agency over some other bill I never received or some adjustment to the charges I was never informed about? WTF? How can this be fucking legal?


-t - May 02, 2020 6:08:16 pm PDT #20721 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That's ridiculous. None of that should work like that!


Consuela - May 02, 2020 6:14:25 pm PDT #20722 of 30019
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I hate our medical system so very much.

Gud, if it's not that much, I guess you could consider the value of your time and if it's worth fighting them over it. I dunno: I hate to see them get away with soaking people, but your peace of mind is worth a lot.


Gudanov - May 02, 2020 6:16:24 pm PDT #20723 of 30019
Coding and Sleeping

I don't think I could fight them, after I contacted them and gave them my address so they would actually send me a bill, they kept sending bills with different amounts. I don't think anyone could determine what amount was actually supposed to be paid.


Gudanov - May 02, 2020 6:20:02 pm PDT #20724 of 30019
Coding and Sleeping

I think if I ever got involved in politics it would be for a ballot initiative to make it that out-of-network third-party providers in hospitals had to negotiate their fee with the insurance company/hospital if the hospital was in-network for the patient and the patient paid one bill. I think some states have something like that.


DavidS - May 02, 2020 6:52:34 pm PDT #20725 of 30019
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Good to see you, Gud! Even during a bad stretch you are a welcome sight here.

Rick - I can't even with people arguing that in-person teaching can be replaced by online. It's ridiculous. You need a seminar structure with the teacher carefully/subtly guiding the conversation, pulling people in, engaging the room. It's vastly different. There are so many more cues given off by both student and teacher in person.

I mean, I love stand-up comedy specials, but even a pretty-good comedian in person is generally so much funnier. Because it's all about timing and they can modulate in real time to the room.


Pix - May 02, 2020 6:58:53 pm PDT #20726 of 30019
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Teaching a large class on Zoom is like being the DJ in absentia for a party you can't attend. You just aren't present enough to feel the room, to see what's working, and to move the experience forward for the participants.

Rick, I don't teach large classes, but wow — this really hit home for me.