May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

Mal ,'Bushwhacked'


Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - May 02, 2020 4:48:55 pm PDT #20718 of 30019
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Yes! Or I could buy a pint, actually... Also another friend just suggested something shelf-stable...


-t - May 02, 2020 5:24:17 pm PDT #20719 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Grocery order delivered, no toilet paper.


Gudanov - May 02, 2020 6:04:11 pm PDT #20720 of 30019
Coding and Sleeping

Getting a bill for an ER visit is just not a thing that should happen. It's an emergency!

At the very least you should get one bill and it should be in-network or not, not a slew of bills all with their own insurance network associations. I already paid this physicans group a couple grand ages ago, after they threatened to send a bill I never received to a collection agency. Now a year later, I'm getting contacted by a collection agency over some other bill I never received or some adjustment to the charges I was never informed about? WTF? How can this be fucking legal?


-t - May 02, 2020 6:08:16 pm PDT #20721 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That's ridiculous. None of that should work like that!


Consuela - May 02, 2020 6:14:25 pm PDT #20722 of 30019
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I hate our medical system so very much.

Gud, if it's not that much, I guess you could consider the value of your time and if it's worth fighting them over it. I dunno: I hate to see them get away with soaking people, but your peace of mind is worth a lot.


Gudanov - May 02, 2020 6:16:24 pm PDT #20723 of 30019
Coding and Sleeping

I don't think I could fight them, after I contacted them and gave them my address so they would actually send me a bill, they kept sending bills with different amounts. I don't think anyone could determine what amount was actually supposed to be paid.


Gudanov - May 02, 2020 6:20:02 pm PDT #20724 of 30019
Coding and Sleeping

I think if I ever got involved in politics it would be for a ballot initiative to make it that out-of-network third-party providers in hospitals had to negotiate their fee with the insurance company/hospital if the hospital was in-network for the patient and the patient paid one bill. I think some states have something like that.


DavidS - May 02, 2020 6:52:34 pm PDT #20725 of 30019
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Good to see you, Gud! Even during a bad stretch you are a welcome sight here.

Rick - I can't even with people arguing that in-person teaching can be replaced by online. It's ridiculous. You need a seminar structure with the teacher carefully/subtly guiding the conversation, pulling people in, engaging the room. It's vastly different. There are so many more cues given off by both student and teacher in person.

I mean, I love stand-up comedy specials, but even a pretty-good comedian in person is generally so much funnier. Because it's all about timing and they can modulate in real time to the room.


Pix - May 02, 2020 6:58:53 pm PDT #20726 of 30019
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Teaching a large class on Zoom is like being the DJ in absentia for a party you can't attend. You just aren't present enough to feel the room, to see what's working, and to move the experience forward for the participants.

Rick, I don't teach large classes, but wow — this really hit home for me.


meara - May 02, 2020 8:07:10 pm PDT #20727 of 30019

Gud, that's so annoying. Agree that medical billing and insurance are RIDICULOUS

Jesse, I would actually recommend buying two of the smaller instead of one of the bigger anyway--that way you only open one at a time and it lasts longer?