If you want me to leave, you can put your hands on my hot, tight little body and make me.

Spike ,'Get It Done'


Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


askye - Apr 11, 2020 1:40:16 pm PDT #19655 of 30019
Thrive to spite them

Glad Gud has checked in and that he is doing ok. It will be nice when we can see his pixels again.


Theodosia - Apr 11, 2020 2:05:57 pm PDT #19656 of 30019
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I'm glad to hear about Gudanov.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 11, 2020 2:13:39 pm PDT #19657 of 30019
What is even happening?

Thanks for the update on Gud, Hec.

How is everyone at Casa Zmayhem?


Calli - Apr 11, 2020 2:18:32 pm PDT #19658 of 30019
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

{{{JZ}}} I'm glad you could have Hec and Matilda close, at least.

I'm also glad Gud checked in. Thanks for letting us know, David.

I've reached the stress cooking phase of the COVID crisis. Luckily, I have some neighbors on whose doors I can hang a bag of food, so at least I won't be eating an entire apple cake myself. Tomorrow I'll be making a Cajun-ish dirty rice dish, with chicken andouille sausage in place of giblets, and a shaved vegetable salad. Also to be shared.

I look at how this has hit my blood family, and this community, and I read about the dead in NYC and elsewhere. And there's absolutely nothing I can do to fix any of it. So I stay home, answer support tickets for students who can't access their online course work, and feed some of my friends. It feels a bit like sautéeing while Rome burns. But at least there's cake at the end of it, I guess.


Hil R. - Apr 11, 2020 2:50:23 pm PDT #19659 of 30019
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Hivemind (especially Hil) - I know that aquafaba (the liquid in canned chick peas) can be used as a egg white substitute. Does anyone know if the liquid from chick peas that you cook yourself has the same properties?

I think yes, but I've never tried it. I've seen people use the liquid from cooking them in an Instant Pot.


DavidS - Apr 11, 2020 2:54:20 pm PDT #19660 of 30019
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

How is everyone at Casa Zmayhem?

Pretty exhausted yesterday. JZ took Matilda back over to her dad's house to sort through things while her brother Chris is still here. He's driving back to Portland tomorrow.

But he'll have to come back down in about two weeks when they have the death certificate so they can meet with the attorney.

Starting to shift from the immediate shock and grief to the nuts and bolts of handling a tricky estate. But Chris was talking about coming down in the late summer with his wife and kids, in the hopes that people can move around the country by then. So the youngest brother, Lukas could fly out with his husband TJ, and some of the cousins would fly in from Greece and there would be a proper memorial ceremony for the whole community.

I think the idea of planning something like that helps after the sense of...irresolution after yesterday's ceremony. Which was lovely in its way but No Hugs makes it feel incomplete.

And Gene was a true pillar of the community type guy. He spent decades helping to put measures on local ballots to help the Oakland Public Schools. He's well known with deep roots in Oakland. He needs a goodbye from Oaklanders.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 11, 2020 4:38:09 pm PDT #19661 of 30019
What is even happening?

Yeah, the lack of hugs felt wrong even to read about.


JZ - Apr 11, 2020 7:36:58 pm PDT #19662 of 30019
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

The estate turns out to be less tricky than we'd feared--he and his lawyers crafted a trust that seems to have been exemplary and transferred ownership of basically everything to the three of us the moment he breathed his last. The main complication is that he'd been working for some time toward retirement and selling his business, but over the last year or two his intended purchaser began to look more and more dodgy (not dishonest, just dumb). Our dad started to drag his feet, and the heads of the corporation started making noises suggesting that they might refuse to approve the sale.

So, my brothers are stuck as the owners and decision-makers; unfortunately, the one who's closest by and has the most business ownership experience also happens to be, well, a business owner with a business of his own plus two young kids who are of course now being homeschooled, and the one who has the most time on his hands is at the other end of the continent and as yet unable to even come for a short come-to-Jesus meeting with the not-optimal guy. And I'm extremely local, but pretty much the last person anyone would want making business decisions regarding mergers, buyouts, firings or money.


P.M. Marc - Apr 11, 2020 8:46:23 pm PDT #19663 of 30019
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

So, my brothers are stuck as the owners and decision-makers; unfortunately, the one who's closest by and has the most business ownership experience also happens to be, well, a business owner with a business of his own plus two young kids who are of course now being homeschooled, and the one who has the most time on his hands is at the other end of the continent and as yet unable to even come for a short come-to-Jesus meeting with the not-optimal guy. And I'm extremely local, but pretty much the last person anyone would want making business decisions regarding mergers, buyouts, firings or money.

That sounds complicated and fraught and I hope your family's able to get that part sorted and done with as soon as possible.


billytea - Apr 12, 2020 5:57:52 am PDT #19664 of 30019
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

JZ, your account of the funeral was beautiful. Our love and thoughts are with you all. I hope your family can get the practicalities resolved with the minimum of stress and trouble.