Wash: So, two days in a hospital? That's awful. Don't you just hate doctors? Simon: Hey. Wash: I mean, present company excluded. Jayne: Let's not be excluding people. That'd be rude.

'Ariel'


Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Jan 19, 2020 3:08:19 am PST #15635 of 30019
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Like, why wouldn't you conduct a needs assessment before embarking on an educational offering?

Ha. Ha. Ha. It's just self-evidently a good idea! And who has money for a needs assessment?? Or time??


Zenkitty - Jan 19, 2020 5:50:41 am PST #15636 of 30019
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

My realization, which frustrates me, is that all the things I do are validated (which is great) and named. But they all still just seem like common sense to me. Like, why wouldn't you conduct a needs assessment before embarking on an educational offering?

This is sort-of what I'm dealing with too. I've been doing project management for 20 years, but my title was never Project Manager, and now in order to get a project management job, I need certifications in Six Sigma and Agile, which both seem to be, to me, common sense. Agile seems to be all about being able to modify a plan "on the fly" if (when) things change, instead of trying to stick to a linear plan that no longer suits the project. Which to me is... duh, yeah, of course that's what you do. I need a certificate that confirms that I can adapt to changing conditions? How the eff could I do this job if I DIDN'T adapt to changing conditions? But okay, whatever. I'll take an 8-week course to prove I can do what I've been doing for decades, and then maybe I can get a g-d job.

swears in Geralt


Amy - Jan 19, 2020 6:36:40 am PST #15637 of 30019
Because books.

I know that feeling, Zen. All of my experience in publishing was years ago, and it's changed so much (and people in the industry have changed jobs, left, retired, making most of my contacts useless) that I don't even qualify for a job anymore. Aside from the fact that pretty much all of the jobs are in NYC anyway.

And despite having an office job for years (including my own correspondence and phone calls and scheduling) I don't qualify for an admin job, because I don't know most of the new programs they want. Which is why I'm managing a bakery, I guess.

But when I think about going back to school -- I've been considering medical stuff, too -- I'm so confused about what to choose, how to choose, what I might actually be good at, that I just crawl into a hole and ignore the whole thing.

Anyway! ::hugs Zen and everyone who wants a hug::


Zenkitty - Jan 19, 2020 6:56:40 am PST #15638 of 30019
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Man, all of that is 100% me, Amy. It's discouraging and frustrating. I don't know what the best thing for me to do is, I don't know enough to even know what I want to do, and the people at Unemployment are not as helpful as I hoped they'd be. I'll probably end up getting the certs and sticking with project management but I'd rather do the two-year Associates in Information Technology. Computers are interesting and I'm easily bored. I think project management will be stressful in the same way my last job was stressful, and I'm not certain my mental health can take much more of it.


bennett - Jan 19, 2020 7:08:11 am PST #15639 of 30019

Sophia and all - Sadly, a lot of what you're picking up in certifications and additional degrees is the jargon you will need to persuade other people to believe you know what you're talking about. I run into this all the time. My usability recommendations may make sense but I don't have the terminology (and sometimes the verbal quickness) to make the committee I'm dealing with believe me.

And I don't have a solution. When I went to Library School I was still young and naive and, while frustrated, I survived. I don't have the energy for that any more.


Zenkitty - Jan 19, 2020 8:13:16 am PST #15640 of 30019
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Sadly, a lot of what you're picking up in certifications and additional degrees is the jargon you will need to persuade other people to believe you know what you're talking about.

Exactly. I just need to know the lingo.


msbelle - Jan 19, 2020 8:17:33 am PST #15641 of 30019
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Tuesday is my last recycling day here, so I am trying to get through/consolidate as much as I can that will need recycling (food/cleaning supplies/toiletries/paper). Thankfully, I think I am through most of it.

Last night I packed up TiVO, DVD, and stereo receiver.

Today I hope to finish the front living room (should be less than 4 boxes left in there, plus taking down drapes and curtain rod.

I've texted my realtor, a tree guy, and a lawn guy thus far, trying to get things done this coming week.

Still have a gd bed and entertainment for sale.


bennett - Jan 19, 2020 9:42:34 am PST #15642 of 30019

Zenkitty - You might want to practice for interviews by taking past projects and figuring out how to explain them in project management or agile jargon. Sort of "how can you make them sound like the interviewer wants to hear".

Having said that, the project management side of my job is my least favorite and I would not want to do it full time. I seem to spend all my time trying to track things I don't really control and then nagging people I don't supervise to get their part of the project done. It's beyond frustrating.


Sheryl - Jan 19, 2020 10:38:45 am PST #15643 of 30019
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

It has been an awful day here with Mr. S, and I'm really frazzled. Yeah, I know he misses daddy, but I can't do anything about it. Mr. S has already trashed his room and was behaving badly at my MIL's house as well.


Laura - Jan 19, 2020 11:12:22 am PST #15644 of 30019
Our wings are not tired.

I'm sorry, Sheryl. Can Gary video chat with him maybe? Or would that make it worse?