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Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sophia Brooks - Jan 08, 2020 12:31:50 pm PST #15365 of 30019
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They have made so many advances in the field of minimally invasive surgery (as I am sure you know because of your job). It is amazing to see, having worked on a surgical assistant class for 15 years!

Much luck and ma and not murderizing to the Stately Lang-Beckmeyer Manor


Steph L. - Jan 08, 2020 12:36:31 pm PST #15366 of 30019
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

They have made so many advances in the field of minimally invasive surgery

Right? Just 3 years ago, my mom had a heart valve replaced and an aneurysm repaired and it had to be open-heart surgery, crack the sternum, the whole shebang. Now it's just sneaky little robot surgery going in through a tiny hole in Tim's side and repairing the valve and boom, all fixed.


Sophia Brooks - Jan 08, 2020 12:37:08 pm PST #15367 of 30019
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I thought it was weird to post about my kitty's surgery in the same post as Tim's,but

1. She is still super sleepy, but I think it is the Gabapenti 2. She still really hates the cone 3. They would have done minimally invasive surgery on her if I had brought her in October! Minimally invasive tiny kitty surgery! I can't even imagine the instruments, because I have seen the human ones and they are HUGE in proportion to a kitten 4. I actually recognize the suture type they used from working on that class. 5. I think in an apocalyptic situation, I might be able to suture better than the average Joe, but not better than a doctor or nurse practitioner or trained combat medic.


Sophia Brooks - Jan 08, 2020 12:42:12 pm PST #15368 of 30019
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Another benefit to the minimally invasive stuff that people don't think of is that it allows woman and less strong people into the field, especially of being the assistant. Retracting requires a lot of upper body strength, and I think it is one of the reasons women didn't go in to that specialty. I mean, they can absolutely do it, but I think the robotic and minimally invasive stuff makes it more appealing. We have seen our guest lectures go from almost 100 percent male to predominantly female (although nurses who are male often go into surgery)


-t - Jan 08, 2020 1:04:51 pm PST #15369 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That's very interesting, Sophia. One of those things that would never have occurred to me because I just don't know anything about those practicalities.


Sophia Brooks - Jan 08, 2020 1:17:05 pm PST #15370 of 30019
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It is only anecdata at this point, but we could probably do a study... Nursing is so weird, in that it is so female dominated that white, straight men are considered underrepresented minorities, but they still get the highest paying jobs the quickest!


amyth - Jan 08, 2020 1:34:00 pm PST #15371 of 30019
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen

Cindy, I'm so glad for good news for C! That's wonderful to hear.

Tep, I'm so sorry you and Tim have had to deal with so much health stress lately. Wishing Tim loads of heart ~ma.

Gud, that's awesome about your son!

Today I drove myself to my clinic appointment. I hadn't driven in nine weeks, so it feels really good to get some of my independence back. My friends have been beyond amazing, but being able to go places on my own has helped my mood considerably.


Jesse - Jan 08, 2020 1:40:06 pm PST #15372 of 30019
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

There was just a thing on Marketplace Morning Report about the continuing lack of female heart surgeons! [link]

Today I drove myself to my clinic appointment. I hadn't driven in nine weeks, so it feels really good to get some of my independence back. My friends have been beyond amazing, but being able to go places on my own has helped my mood considerably.

That's fantastic!


Tom Scola - Jan 08, 2020 1:46:23 pm PST #15373 of 30019
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Yay, amyth!!


DavidS - Jan 08, 2020 1:48:16 pm PST #15374 of 30019
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I love seeing this round of good news among buffistae!

Cindy, I'm so glad he's headed back to school.

Laura, I'm also very glad that your son has found a job that's getting him up and moving around at least. Computers might be a bad fit for him in some ways. I wonder if applying his problem solving acumen to something like a contractor type job might be more engaging and lean towards his strengths and away from his temptations.

Woo hoo, on Epic getting her living space in order.

Woo hoo, on Miley finding such a sweet home and offloading of Legos.

Glad to have Tim lined up for the surgery and that they can do it without cracking him open like a lobster.

Gud, it's been fascinating watching your spicy brained son grow up. That's fantastic that he's already got something lined up after college. Though I expect that by the time he finishes college he'll have a bunch of headhunters hunting for his head.

Cool beans, on autonomy and mobility, amyth!