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Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Nov 16, 2019 8:45:37 am PST #13573 of 30019
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

My brother's friend texted and said he's taking my brother to the hospital. Thank god. So now I get to tell my parents. (My brother really believed he could do an at-home taper with beer like he did when I was there in 2016, and it would go smoothly -- which it did in 2016 -- and he didn't want to tell our parents until he was done and on the sober side of this relapse, because our dad will be a dick about it and our mom will go full drama queen and make it about her, and he just couldn't deal with that while he was trying to get sober. So when my brother asked me to not tell our parents, I agreed, because he was right -- our parents would not have reactions that are supportive to him. But agreeing to not tell them was contingent on this whole at-home taper working out, which it clearly has not. Going to the hospital is the clear bright goddamn line where I call the parents. Which is going to suck.)

I'm relieved he'll be getting medical attention, but my stress level isn't any lower.


Consuela - Nov 16, 2019 8:46:29 am PST #13574 of 30019
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Gudanov: you are a good person! If you trust and believe the Buffistas, who have been your online home for so many years, can you trust our judgment of you? Even if we don't see everything that goes on, we see you catastrophizing and we know from that. '

If you were to give a gift to your friends and family this year, it would be to go get help. It is OKAY TO GET HELP. Mike Dukakis got help after he lost the presidential campaign! All sorts of famous and accomplished people get help -- it's one way they stay accomplished, because it helps them manage their emotions and their lives.

Please please please call someone, or log onto Better Help or one of the other online services.

Please take action, to help yourself, your kids, and even your wife.


JZ - Nov 16, 2019 9:33:34 am PST #13575 of 30019
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Gudanov, all I can do is second, third and fourth everything everyone else is saying. As a veteran of decades of catastrophizing and self-blame, I promise you, from experience, that what you're telling yourself is untrue. As Consuela said, Better Help and many other resources, both free one-time options and longer courses of therapy with licensed clinicians, are available anytime.

You are better than this. You deserve better than this. So does your family, whom you love so much.


Theodosia - Nov 16, 2019 10:17:16 am PST #13576 of 30019
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Steph, I just caught up on what's happening with your brother -- so sorry you've gone through the long-distance wringer with that. Serious detox needs serious medical attention, so I'm a bit relieved about that part.


Dana - Nov 16, 2019 10:19:38 am PST #13577 of 30019
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Oy, made it to the end of three days with my in-laws. The racism greatest hits, whitefonted for those who don't especially want to read a bunch of racist shit:

They ruined Monticello because now it's all about his mistress, the blacks in North Carolina are friendly but the blacks in DC have the black attitude, all of the security guards in DC museums are people of color so that's discrimination ha ha ha.

And bonus generational jerkishkness: Society is such a mess today because everyone is constantly whining about their feelings being hurt.


Theodosia - Nov 16, 2019 10:42:05 am PST #13578 of 30019
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Not for the first time, I wonder if your husband was a changeling, Dana.


-t - Nov 16, 2019 11:22:41 am PST #13579 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Ugh, Dana, sorry you have to get stuck in that.

{{Gud}} Please listen to the smart and concerned Buffistas.

Tep, I'm so relieved he's going to the hospital! Sorry you have to be a liaison to your parents about it.


msbelle - Nov 16, 2019 11:49:17 am PST #13580 of 30019
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I slept til noon and took a shower at 2. I really need to get going on the job search and this house if I want to move. Motivation is at zero.


Sophia Brooks - Nov 16, 2019 12:12:03 pm PST #13581 of 30019
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Steph, I am glad friend is taking your brother to the hospital. Obviously you know this, but alcohol withdrawal can be so serious, so I am glad he is getting help and not white knuckling it.

Dana I always wonder if people realize they are whining about people whining. I like to complain myself, but not about whole generations and ethnicities! I like to complain about specific people who annoy me. And I am pretty sure people complain about me too, because I do annoying things like storm out of the room when I am angry, because I am going to cry! And I cry a lot and don't follow processes for IT help when I am in a panic.

I cleaned out BOTH my closets and have another boatload of stuff to throw out or donate. I am also starting to be able to put things in semi logical places instead of random drawers. I think I have gotten just about everything to the right room and to a manageable size.

After another couple of paychecks, I think I may just call ServePro back to remove the stuff in the attic. There really isn't much, but I don't want to ask Aidan to do it because I have been boxing and storing my empty wine bottles up there instead of taking them out. There are only about three boxes, and then also three computers and some dirty pots and pans I stashed up there. But Aidan's father is an alcoholic and it just seems weird. And I cannot carry them down, because I just can't. And those guys were wonderful


Sophia Brooks - Nov 16, 2019 12:49:06 pm PST #13582 of 30019
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Also, did anyone else see that our Buffistas, Sarah Myers, needs some help on Facebook? Since everyone was so helpful to me, I wanted to share [link]