I don't really have a security blanket... unless you count Mr. Pointy.

Buffy ,'Lessons'


Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Oct 22, 2019 3:26:01 pm PDT #12528 of 30019
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I've had good success with what I do believe is a just-OK cover letter template. Lame opening, paragraph about how my experience matches what they are looking for, sentence or two about why I specifically want to work there (especially important for nonprofits, I think). Boom, the end. But I haven't tried to sell myself for a job I wasn't an obvious fit for in years and years, so.


Kate P. - Oct 22, 2019 3:52:12 pm PDT #12529 of 30019
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Agreed that the tell-a-story bit is a good idea (and can be pretty simple), and that tracking down the name of the hiring manager is a bad one.

Also, as someone who's done several rounds of hiring in the last few years, I'd posit that the people who will be reading your cover letter aren't necessarily people who know anything about recent cover letter trends. They're just people looking to hire someone who will do well in the role. You already have an advantage in that you're a good writer. Give yourself permission to write a shitty first draft, ask a couple friends to be your beta readers, and I bet you'll come up with a perfectly good letter.


-t - Oct 22, 2019 3:58:55 pm PDT #12530 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Kate makes a very good point. You are a good writer, Zen, lean into that.


Pix - Oct 22, 2019 4:04:02 pm PDT #12531 of 30019
The status is NOT quo.

Wow, I've missed a lot since I last skimmed/read. Support and vibes to Sophia, Zen, Maria, Dana, and anyone else who needs them.


Steph L. - Oct 22, 2019 4:47:28 pm PDT #12532 of 30019
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I am not making this up:

You know how I mentioned the current trend in my neighborhood's FB group is to take selfies with the lone small cart at Kroger and post them in the group? Someone talked to Kroger and our store is getting 50 new small carts AND -- again, I am not making this up -- Kroger is throwing a party at the store for us on Sunday.

This is the BEST THING EVER.


Dana - Oct 22, 2019 4:59:16 pm PDT #12533 of 30019
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Oh, fuck me, I think I have a fever. If I have the flu, I'm going to be pissed. And also unable to sing the concert on Saturday.


meara - Oct 22, 2019 5:10:40 pm PDT #12534 of 30019

Steph that is hilarious! And awesome. I love the tiny carts. I usually end up doing my shopping with a basket and then wishing I had a tiny cart but not wanting the big cart.


Dana - Oct 22, 2019 5:24:16 pm PDT #12535 of 30019
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Yep, fever of 100.3. Naturally, the urgent care closed 25 minutes ago.


-t - Oct 22, 2019 5:44:31 pm PDT #12536 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I'm sorry, Dana.

Woo tiny cart party!

ETA it seems like the kind of thing Li'l Sebastian would make an appearance at


sarameg - Oct 22, 2019 5:55:02 pm PDT #12537 of 30019

At my work, you rarely would be able to figure out who the hiring team is unless someone referred you; and even then, applications generally go into a pool (we tend to do hiring campaigns more than one-offs because budget cycle) & one hiring team might hand one off to another if they think it might be a better fit.

My last pool, for 4 positions in dev/ops/engineering triaged over 500 apps. First pass is resume for basic quals, then cover letters to filter those qualified on paper or whose experience interested us. And then it's like, did they read the crappy job description? Try to engage it? Something demonstrated that seems a good fit? Which is to say, cover letters are a crapshoot, just use your voice & hopefully it'll connect to a good fit.

I hate/love being on the hiring team. We found good people from our process. That I love. I hated knowing I probably rejected equally good ones.