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Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


-t - Oct 26, 2018 10:34:48 am PDT #1193 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Can they get outside if they want to, Jesse? I would guess that any potential offspring would be eager to strike out on their own rather than filling up your kitchen.


Sue - Oct 26, 2018 11:19:29 am PDT #1194 of 30019
hip deep in pie

Jesse, I have left spiders be in my bathroom and they usually disappear or the cat eats them.


Jesse - Oct 26, 2018 11:19:48 am PDT #1195 of 30019
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

They're helpful! They eat other bugs!

That's why I was so happy with one! Even two. But I've read Charlotte's Web...

Can they get outside if they want to, Jesse? I would guess that any potential offspring would be eager to strike out on their own rather than filling up your kitchen.

That's a good call. Theoretically they can't get outside (windows closed, etc.), but I bet there's a way.


Jesse - Oct 26, 2018 11:20:20 am PDT #1196 of 30019
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Jesse, I have left spiders be in my bathroom and they usually disappear or the cat eats them.

I'm shocked these have been there so long! I do like them, and I guess my cat doesn't hang out there?


Topic!Cindy - Oct 26, 2018 11:55:43 am PDT #1197 of 30019
What is even happening?

If bugs come into my house, I kill them (except for Ladybugs).

In other fire news, a Fresno man, who was house-sitting for his parents, decided to blow-torch some bl*ck w*d*w jillifonts.

Does the article have photos? I want to read it, but am wary.

It does have one big honking photo, about 2/3rds of the way down. Here's a copy/paste of the text, Atropa. [link]

By Alex Horton October 25 at 2:04 PM

This is a story without judgment or condemnation. We have all been that person at one time or another, terrified by nature's instinct to lash out at humans and reconquer its land. Sometimes we respond with arms. This time, the weapon of choice just happened to be a blowtorch.

The man's identity is not known. But he was housesitting for his parents in Fresno, Calif., on Tuesday when the black widows came.

There were at least "a couple" of them, ABC 30 reported.

It is not known whether the man was a budding arachnologist or just happened to know how to identify black widows — or specifically, the exclusively dangerous females that bear the scarlet hourglass marking, according to researchers.

Maybe he did not know any of that. Maybe the spiders were not black widows at all. But just that possibility, apparently, was enough propel him into action.

The man grabbed a propane torch, pointed in the general direction of the spiders and went to work, he later told authorities.

Flames licked and crawled along the base of the house before carving into the interior wall, Fresno Fire Department deputy fire marshal Lee Wilding told ABC News. The flames then traveled upward, triggering a larger blaze on the second floor and in the attic, he said.

Firefighters, ultimately numbering more than two dozen, sped to the scene in response to a 911 call. The damage could be as much as $10,000, the Los Angeles Times reported. The man is 23, the paper said.

[The extraordinary life and death of the world's oldest known spider]

"We don't ever recommend using some type of heating device like that to get rid of any vermin or spiders," Fire Battalion Chief Tony Escobedo told ABC at the scene.

Escobedo, employing great understatement, added: "This probably was a bad idea."

That sentiment was echoed by a department firefighter union.

"Please don't use a blowtorch to kill spiders," the local 753 wrote Wednesday on Twitter.

The Fresno Fire Department did not respond to a request for comment but told local media outlets that no one was injured.

It is not clear whether the man will be charged. The Fresno Police Department did not respond to a request for comment.

Black-widow bites can be dangerous, causing vomiting, severe pain and other issues, according to research published by Permanente Journal.

About 2,500 bites are reported to poison control authorities each year in the United States, but researchers said the actual number is almost certainly higher. Deaths are very rare, with only three worldwide reported in medical literature, the researchers found.

But who really stops to consult scientific journals to properly contextualize the nature of a threat like a black widow? The man acted, although his parents are probably not pleased, and no one could blame the firefighters if they were frustrated after learning what triggered the blaze.

And yet, there are the spiders. They have held dominion for hundreds of millions of years before humanoid species began to grasp stone tools for the first time in eastern Africa, one day destined to wield fire in a clumsy twist of five digits.

We don't know what happened to these particular Fresno spiders. They may be dead. They may have survived. There may have been other spiders.

But we do know that the man fled outside, leaving the house empty. And perhaps, for a moment, the spiders reclaimed their kingdom.


Connie Neil - Oct 26, 2018 12:16:32 pm PDT #1198 of 30019
brillig

Sometimes the universe hands you an opportunity to craft great prose. And the editor says "Really? OK, we've got inches to fill anyway."


Sheryl - Oct 26, 2018 12:50:10 pm PDT #1199 of 30019
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

My MIL got Mr. S a toddler-sized table and chairs. He broke one of the legs off the table this morning. (I don't know exactly how, but judging by the sounds I heard from downstairs, he either hit it with something, or banged it into the wall or door. I suspect the latter.)

Mr. Destructo strikes again....sigh.


Atropa - Oct 26, 2018 1:29:48 pm PDT #1200 of 30019
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

That is a magnificent article. Thank you for the C&P, Cindy!

Escobedo, employing great understatement, added: "This probably was a bad idea."

Fire is only to be used on outdoor garden pests! This is what Dad taught me.


Dana - Oct 26, 2018 1:37:48 pm PDT #1201 of 30019
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

I have been in a meeting with my coworker for TWO AND A HALF HOURS while we go through this style guide, in addition to the 2.5 hours yesterday. It is 5:37 on Friday. LET MY PEOPLE GO.


Atropa - Oct 26, 2018 1:43:02 pm PDT #1202 of 30019
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

If that meeting doesn't end with your co-worker signing a blood pact that they will always use the style guide, you are justified in strangling them.