Tara: That was funny if you've studied Taglarin mystic rites and... are a total dork... Riley: Then how come Xander didn't laugh?

'Selfless'


Spike's Bitches 49: As usual, I'm here to help you, and I... are you naked under there?

Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Steph L. - Sep 17, 2018 10:54:22 am PDT #4363 of 8234
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Males don't perceive that rape or molestation is a violation. The standard response when a woman/girl cries rape is, why is she making such a big deal? It's just sex. They literally don't see any difference between consensual sex and rape, or understand why consent is important.

That's my guess with Kavanaugh. A sense of entitlement is woven in there, too -- *he* wanted it, so it doesn't matter what she wanted.

Women/girls are not actual human people the same way men/boys (and sometimes not boys) are.

I mean, that's reflected in the reaction to Christine Blasey Ford. Women are not believed, more often than not. (Unless, of course, a man corroborates her story.) And also, our society has no concept of how trauma works (i.e., the people asking "Why didn't she tell anyone, 30 years ago?" "Why is it still a 'big deal', 30 years after the fact?" etc).


Jessica - Sep 17, 2018 11:15:30 am PDT #4364 of 8234
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Like, does he not even remember it? (Like, it happened, but that was the sort of thing he was often up to or drunk or wasn't significant, he might not) Does he remember it differently, as her being willing or him not going that far or everyone laughing or whatever? Does he remember the same but not feel/didn't feel at the time like it was problematic? Or is he perfectly aware and just covering his ass for days?

The facts as I understand them:

- False rape accusations are vanishingly rare. Therefore, Ford is telling the truth.

- *Before* the rape allegations surfaced, Kavenaugh collected "he did not rape me in high school" statements from 65 other women. Therefore, he remembers the assault well enough to have prepared in advance to defend himself on the topic.

I don't know if he feels any kind of personal moral guilt, or if he just thinks this is one of those things Democrats/women are always making a big deal out of.


Connie Neil - Sep 17, 2018 11:47:43 am PDT #4365 of 8234
brillig

Before he collected witness statements, I would have gone with "I may have done something like that, but I don't remember who I was with." Generic available female at a drunken party. Which is why I only went to parties where I knew everyone (not that that's a guarantee)


Toddson - Sep 17, 2018 11:52:14 am PDT #4366 of 8234
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

There's also the possibility that he did this, or something like it, often enough that he doesn't remember her and this specific occasion (sorry, the cynicism tag doesn't close).


Zenkitty - Sep 17, 2018 11:59:09 am PDT #4367 of 8234
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

It's never just once.


Toddson - Sep 17, 2018 12:00:30 pm PDT #4368 of 8234
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Or he may remember her as "the one that got away."


WindSparrow - Sep 17, 2018 7:44:22 pm PDT #4369 of 8234
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

You can have a little more time with Harvey then. May those days be full of comfort for you and your wise old cat.

I have been trying to simply enjoy the moment with him, but the last few weeks, I have had a hard time with it, feeling that perhaps this good run was drawing to a close. I am so relieved and grateful.

Zenkitty, I hope you got some pain relief.


Scrappy - Sep 20, 2018 4:17:28 am PDT #4370 of 8234
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I'm off to take my MTTC (Michigan state test to qualify for a teaching certificate). I am slightly terrified. It's done electronically, so I will get a preliminary score when I finish. I'll let you know how it goes.


WindSparrow - Sep 20, 2018 5:39:34 am PDT #4371 of 8234
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Test-taking~ma, Scrappy!


Laura - Sep 20, 2018 6:05:30 am PDT #4372 of 8234
Our wings are not tired.

Test~ma!