I seen you without your clothes on before. Never thought I'd see you naked.

Mal ,'Trash'


Spike's Bitches 49: As usual, I'm here to help you, and I... are you naked under there?

Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


-t - Oct 16, 2017 6:42:40 am PDT #2238 of 8214
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

(A) I love you all. Liese you are a hero.

(2) I have to bitch about this somewhere and this feels like the most appropriate place (no pun intended (well, maybe a little bit intended, but that'snot why this is the most appropriate place)). After 407 days of dormancy, my reproductive system apparently decided that it wouldn't be an evacuation without some unexpected bleeding. So of course I have no supplies with me (although I do have a drawer with extras at home just on case but I didn't not pack them because of course I didn't) and my mom hasn't needed any for years so I got to make an early morning trip to Safeway with a wad of toilet paper in my underwear. Way to go, body!


askye - Oct 16, 2017 6:43:57 am PDT #2239 of 8214
Thrive to spite them

Aurelia it's like he had no idea about the emotions attached talking about harassment and assault. That talking about it brings back the feelings of shame, humiliation, anger, sadness, etc. So it's some kind of intellectual exercise for him.

I wanted tonsa y that this morning in your post but decided not to.


Laura - Oct 16, 2017 6:55:52 am PDT #2240 of 8214
Our wings are not tired.

I was trying to post support messages to people on FB, but it isn't letting me. Some FB issue I assume.

(A) I love you all. Liese you are a hero.

Yes, true.

(2)

Oh yeah, I remember that one!


flea - Oct 16, 2017 7:29:39 am PDT #2241 of 8214
information libertarian

Speaking of sexual harassment, I'm trying to deal with this issue at work. The problem is library customers harassing staff members. We have a procedure for the ones who clearly step over a line - we contact security, they have a conversation with the person, then document, and if the person does it again, we do a written warning, ask them to leave for the day, and can go up to a six month ban. That's fine. The problem is the constant flow of people who don't fully cross a line. Staff stand at an entrance to the building and greet people, and many, many people who enter the building make comments that taken individually are minimal, but add up. The "You should smile more" kind of comments. The "Hi, beautiful," said with a leer. There is also some non-sexual touching (hand on a shoulder when someone approaches from behind). You can't call security for this kind of thing. But it happens to every single woman (less to the women over 50, more to the young cute women) and none of the men. Anyone have resources for an institution dealing with this? Everything I'm finding online is either legalese and from the perspective of protecting the employer from a lawsuit, or about restaurant work and boils down to "find another job."


-t - Oct 16, 2017 7:33:06 am PDT #2242 of 8214
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Oy. That sucks, flea. I wish I had something helpful.


-t - Oct 16, 2017 8:05:42 am PDT #2243 of 8214
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

And I didn't bring the chocolate I bought yesterday to work with me today.

::cries::


Sue - Oct 16, 2017 8:19:49 am PDT #2244 of 8214
hip deep in pie

Staff stand at an entrance to the building and greet people, and many, many people who enter the building make comments that taken individually are minimal, but add up.

Can you improve their physical security and maybe also give their position as greeter a more official tone that people won't be so casual towards, by giving them a desk, or kiosk or podium that gives them some protection. Maybe you don't want the professional distance in a greeter, but it may help a little. (I know there's probably no help for some people.)


flea - Oct 16, 2017 8:25:27 am PDT #2245 of 8214
information libertarian

We have a desk. The administration has specifically directed that staff should not stand behind it, to appear more friendly. So they literally stand in front of a desk. (My staff have my encouragement to go behind the desk if they are feeling unsafe, and my assurance that if the director notices them behind the desk and calls our department to raise the issue, I will stand by them. Our director is the sort of person who notices and follows up on this kind of thing.)


aurelia - Oct 16, 2017 10:01:01 am PDT #2246 of 8214
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

askye, I agree. And if you want to say that to him, feel free. I do think he could eventually get it, but it is certainly not an obligation for any of us to be the ones to instruct him. I'm not feeling inclined to spend more emotional energy on him.

I'm also backchannelling with someone who knows him better than I do and she's talking about his poor word choices and defensiveness. Her husband said it was like he wanted a definition or list so he could know if he had harassed anyone, which goes along with Liese's assessment.

ion, my conversation with the vendor's HR rep went well. I don't expect that guy to be sent here any more which is what I asked for.

Flea, do you have any velvet ropes you could put around your greeter?


Sue - Oct 16, 2017 10:21:46 am PDT #2247 of 8214
hip deep in pie

The administration has specifically directed that staff should not stand behind it, to appear more friendly. So they literally stand in front of a desk.

Mmm. I suspected that was the case.