Willow: It feels like we're going around in circles. Xander: Our circles are going around in circles. We got dizzy circles here.

'Sleeper'


Boxed Set, Vol. VI: I am not a number, I am a free thread!

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


DXMachina - Nov 11, 2017 3:32:26 am PST #811 of 2020
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I was about to say that's disappointing, until I saw this on the same site:

George Takei has now been accused of sexually assaulting someone in 1981.

If true, that's really disappointing.


Dana - Nov 11, 2017 5:04:29 am PST #812 of 2020
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

It's all disappointing. Everything is terrible.


Steph L. - Nov 11, 2017 5:14:13 am PST #813 of 2020
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

I have a secret, very short list of men in the public eye who, if it turns out they are sexual predators, will just gut me.* Beyond them, I'm pretty much braced for every other goddamn man in politics or Hollywood to turn out to be a total shitbag.

*(Barack Obama, Joe Biden, and Lin-Manuel Miranda. Come through for me, guys. Come through. t edit Okay, Mr. The Rock being a sexual predator would make me sad, too, now that I think of it.)


msbelle - Nov 11, 2017 10:31:54 am PST #814 of 2020
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

The Arrowverse allegations was apparently widely known and I am seeing a lot of the fandom people I follow assert that there are others in that production sphere. All horrible.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 11, 2017 1:26:39 pm PST #815 of 2020
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

The fact that they hired Jerkules on one of the DC shows proved to me that Berlanti pays zero attention to chauvinist and harassing behavior on those soundstages.


msbelle - Nov 11, 2017 4:33:25 pm PST #816 of 2020
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Sorbo? ugh I didn't know they hired him. gross


Sophia Brooks - Nov 11, 2017 4:40:45 pm PST #817 of 2020
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

*(Barack Obama, Joe Biden, and Lin-Manuel Miranda. Come through for me, guys. Come through. Okay, Mr. The Rock being a sexual predator would make me sad, too, now that I think of it.)

That is pretty much my list too. I am pretty braced for almost anyone else, but if Obama or LMM have any issues, I am pretty much done with the world.


billytea - Nov 11, 2017 4:59:59 pm PST #818 of 2020
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I have a secret, very short list of men in the public eye who, if it turns out they are sexual predators, will just gut me.* Beyond them, I'm pretty much braced for every other goddamn man in politics or Hollywood to turn out to be a total shitbag.

My list is basically David Attenborough.


Jessica - Nov 13, 2017 7:52:28 am PST #819 of 2020
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Barack Obama, Joe Biden, and Lin-Manuel Miranda

I'm nervous to even write down my own list (which definitely includes these three) because I'd feel compelled to Google first, and I don't want to find anything!


Vonnie K - Nov 13, 2017 9:58:45 am PST #820 of 2020
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Ugh, Andrew Kreisberg. That one bites. Back when I was a superfan of DC comics TV (okay, like 3 years ago but it feels like foreverrr), I remember listening to a long, entertaining podcast where Kreisberg discussed his career with Kevin Smith and thinking, "he seems like a really cool dude." Mo Ryan from Variety, who broke the Kreisberg story, was a big champion of Arrow and The Flash in their early seasons, too.

On the big picture level, I am glad the Weinstein story burst the floodgates open, but every day, it's like you wake up bracing for impact in case the next dirtbag turns out to be someone whose work you enjoyed/who you thought was one of the Good Ones.