Tracy: 'When you can't run, you crawl... and when you can't crawl, when you can't do that--' Zoe: 'You find someone to carry you.'

'The Message'


Boxed Set, Vol. VI: I am not a number, I am a free thread!

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


bennett - Jun 27, 2017 9:16:05 am PDT #613 of 2020

I loved Capaldi in Torchwood's Children of Earth season. He can convey so much with just a twitch. But the Doctor is a much more over-the-top character and I've not warmed up to Capaldi's Doctor for some reason.


Dana - Jun 27, 2017 11:42:40 am PDT #614 of 2020
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

I don't know if I love him, but he was for sure a nice break from the increasingly young and floppy-haired Doctors. Now if we can get away from white men...


sj - Jun 27, 2017 5:26:59 pm PDT #615 of 2020
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

iZombie:

I'm glad they finally mentioned the idea that you can resist the influence of the brain you're on and it's not a free pass for everything you do.

On the whole it seemed like a very boring season, until the last fifteen minutes or so of this episode.


Jon B. - Jun 27, 2017 5:48:10 pm PDT #616 of 2020
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Has iZombie been renewed?


sj - Jun 27, 2017 5:51:15 pm PDT #617 of 2020
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Yup.


Jon B. - Jun 27, 2017 6:04:02 pm PDT #618 of 2020
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Excellent.


sj - Jun 27, 2017 6:22:56 pm PDT #619 of 2020
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I think it is midseason again. Which is fine because I get Crazy Ex-Girlfriend in the fall, and neither show should probably still be on the air based on ratings alone.


Toddson - Jun 28, 2017 12:29:55 pm PDT #620 of 2020
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

So much this. I tend to think Doctor Who has been well served by pretty much all of the actors who've been given the opportunity to fill the role (even Jim Broadbent)

ahem ... Colin Baker (local PBS is re-broadcasting old episodes and they've just started his stint so he's fresh in my mind)


billytea - Jun 28, 2017 2:36:03 pm PDT #621 of 2020
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

ahem ... Colin Baker (local PBS is re-broadcasting old episodes and they've just started his stint so he's fresh in my mind)

Even him, really. I mean, he's my lowest-rated classic series Doctor, but I mostly blame that on poor choices by JNT and Saward (notably to dress the Doctor like a circus clown, pander to diehard fans at the expense of casual viewers, and make his relationship with Peri functionally indistinguishable from an abusive relationship - oh, and an inexplicable conviction that Pip and Jane Baker could write dialogue). (Notably, Baker himself objected to at least the first and the third, and actually pushed through changes in the third one. He and Peri are much warmer in The Mysterious Planet.)

I have three audio adventures with the Sixth Doctor, and given a better script - and a companion who's happy to stand up to him - his Doctor works fine. (And just to repeat, his audio adventure Jubilee is pretty much the equal of any Dalek adventure out there, and costs less than $3.)


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 28, 2017 7:12:16 pm PDT #622 of 2020
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I don't know, maybe it's strictly due to the writing and direction, but Colin Baker's Doctor just radiated off-putting smugness without any of the charm that made it tolerable in Ten. I like my Doctors arrogant like Hartnell's, Pertwee's, and Capaldi's, but there's a distinction between being convinced you're the smartest person in the room and being convinced you're surrounded by morons who are worthy only of your disdain.